Smiffy Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 This will be my second entry, the new Revell 1/24 Ferrari F2007. I've always been curious about what these Revell F1 cars were like, so when I spotted this on e-bay last week, I snapped it straight up. Well, it's pretty much how I expected in some respects. It definitely lacks the finesse of the Tamiya F1 cars, but what I wasn't expecting was the wacky breakdown of parts. It's gonna take some modification so that I can paint the main body then attach the suspension parts later, but I'm quite looking forward to a bit of a hack about actually. This is gonna be an out of the box build (no Skii-esque super detail jobs here ). The only aftermarket I ordered was a set of belts and some Carbon fibre decals, which as it turned out, weren't needed, as they include pre shaped C/F decals on the kit sheet. I'm gonna be building Kimis car as raced at the British Grand Prix last year, mainly because, I was there and he won (simple really). I'll be honest, I'm not really a fan of his, but the car looked fantastic in the bright Silverstone sunshine, which brings me to the main reason I wanted to build this. The paintjob. It's gorgeous. When I saw the kit was available, the first thing I did was to go over to Hiroboy and see if they did the paint for it. Yay...... ....they do. It's a 2 part job. First you lay down the silver basecoat and then you overspray that with the clear candy red shade. So all the effort on this one is going to be trying to make a decent looking curbside model. No frills, no removable engine covers....just a nice looking display model, with a decent( ) looking paint job. Hopefully, when done, it should look something like this. Wish me luck.
daz greenwood Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 Good luck Smiffy I think you're gonna need it!
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Yeah, good luck. Although I'm sure it'll go swimmingly. I'll be interested to see how good (or bad) you think the kit is. The only Revell F1 I've attempted is the Jordan 197 (the one with the snake painted down the sides). It wasn't a bad kit, but the strange breakdown of parts caused a bit of headscratching, and the decision to mould everything in yellow was poor. One of these days, I'll finish it.
Diesel Gypsy Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Great subject Smiffy. The Revell F1 cars arn't difficult builds once you get used to them, & I agree that the parts breakdown is a little wierd. As long as you keep that in mind you'll be fine. Stop, think & dry fit before you commit to glue (just trying to be helpful, I'm not trying to tell tell Granny how to suck eggs ) DD
iv-tecman Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 This car ran with a really nice colour, I agree. Like a candy apple red, not too sure if you've done candy or tints before, but make sure when you lay the tint or candy over the silver ground coat you get equal level coverage, or you end up with darker areas, and it looks a bit patchy... Should look pretty nice when done.. Good luck
Skii Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Looking forwrd to this Smiffy . Admittedly I'm no fan of todays F1 cars but as a display piece this one will look magnificent Hiroboy paints are wonderful, you won't be dissapointed
Smiffy Posted April 21, 2008 Author Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks for the encouragement fellas. Stop, think & dry fit before you commit to glue (just trying to be helpful, I'm not trying to tell tell Granny how to suck eggs ) DD[/b] Absolutely. It's not a bad kit, just gonna take a little thought, like you say. Like a candy apple red, not too sure if you've done candy or tints before, but make sure when you lay the tint or candy over the silver ground coat you get equal level coverage, or you end up with darker areas, and it looks a bit patchy... To tell the truth, I'm already concerned about that. I've not done candy paints before (in fact, I haven't done a car kit for years), but it's another reason why I wanna have a go, just to see if I can do it. I think I may do some test painting on some old scrapers before I commit paint to the Fezza. Any tips or tricks of the trade will be gratefully received.
iv-tecman Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 The biggest problem is getting the tint into the hard to reach areas, so its better to lay down the colour in light mists and lower PSI and just slowly build up the colour by slowly moving the airbrush over the body, the wider the spray the better. The more it can cover in one pass I find with candy colours work better.. This is a tint over a blue met ground coat. I used a larger needle and was careful to not over go any area twice, I applied about four light coats, the more you apply the dark the tint or candy becomes. It can have a small gloss but your clear is where you'll get your mirror shine.. If you get a dust, don't sand a candy or tint, it does ruin the effect. It is tricky, you can't sand the final ground coat, and you can't sand any of the tint... You can however sand the primer, and the clear. So make sure your primer is super smooth, and spray the ground and tint at lower PSI, and then mist about 23 - 3 coats of clea, depending on clear coat of choice and then see how it looks... The skyline I've shown as an example was cleared with 2K clear, two mists and then a heavy, and it had orange peel. I sanded the clear, then hit it with a super wet coat of 2K clear, looked like a mirror. I only polished with a rubbing compound, and then waxed... Job done, spray water around your spray booth, and use a tack cloth between layers of primer, ground, tint and then clear..
tjn Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 had a look here? http://www.f1m.com/main/ do halfords do a spray similar? of course, you could always do what one dedicated nutjob does (I forget his name, but he does post his work and it is **incredible**) - he actually buys his paint direct from the team supplier in each case.
Smiffy Posted April 21, 2008 Author Posted April 21, 2008 I used a larger needle and was careful to not over go any area twice, I applied about four light coats, the more you apply the dark the tint or candy becomes. It can have a small gloss but your clear is where you'll get your mirror shine..If you get a dust, don't sand a candy or tint, it does ruin the effect. It is tricky, you can't sand the final ground coat, and you can't sand any of the tint... You can however sand the primer, and the clear. So make sure your primer is super smooth, and spray the ground and tint at lower PSI, and then mist about 23 - 3 coats of clea, depending on clear coat of choice and then see how it looks... The skyline I've shown as an example was cleared with 2K clear, two mists and then a heavy, and it had orange peel. I sanded the clear, then hit it with a super wet coat of 2K clear, looked like a mirror. I only polished with a rubbing compound, and then waxed... Job done, spray water around your spray booth, and use a tack cloth between layers of primer, ground, tint and then clear.. That's excellent, thanks. I have been stocking up on me painting and finishing products from Hiroboy actually. I've got me fine (2000 and 2500) grit wet n dry, tack cloths, MR super gloss, some Finishers compounds and the Treatment wax. I'm also thinking that this might be the perfect excuse to upgrade to a better compressor as well.
iv-tecman Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Cool, then you're all set mate.. The Treatment Wax is the nuts mate.. Its really good, you only need a small pea sized blob each time, and it goes a long way. It looks greasy and wet afterwards, but thats the idea. The 2000 grit will be great for sanding your primer. Make it nice and smooth for that silver ground coat.. What compressor have you got? I have a B & Q no name hardware compressor, cost me £90, + £15 for a regulator and it does 90 Psi and 2.5cfm or something like that.. Unless you want to use trigger spray guns, then most airbrushes work with most of the cheaper low end compressors, the only airbrush I know that needs a 1.8 or higher CFM is the G6 from IWATA, and that is a smaller trigger brush, with a larger fan head and needle... fter that, you move into spray guns, and one of those puppies will pretty much spray your entire 1/24 F1 model in one pass each side... Don't ask, before I moved into IT, I used to work in a car body repair shop, spraying car panels... Figures..!! lol
Smiffy Posted April 22, 2008 Author Posted April 22, 2008 Yeah, I've heard good things about the wax, so I'm eager to try it out. My compressor is an ancient Sagola thing. It's bloody noisy and vibrates so much, it starts creeping along the floor, but it only cost me a fiver and I've had it for years, so I can't complain too much. I fancy one of them modern silent jobs now though.
jezz Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Looking forwrd to this Smiffy . Admittedly I'm no fan of todays F1 cars but as a display piece this one will look magnificent Hiroboy paints are wonderful, you won't be dissapointed i agree i dont use any other paint now and the f1 2007 is amazing from hiriboy
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