Rybeast Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thank you. I wasn't sure if the two were synonyms or not. On an unrelated subject the paint Halfords made for me isn't spraying well. Just sprays blobs. I had got a fine mist going but when I went to do a second coat twenty minutes later it just sprayed heavily with blobs! I've left the little red mister thing on, so not sure what's happened! Any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroRacing Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Yeah the Halfords mixed paint use a crap nozzle. I wasted so much paint when building a Rally Subaru. Might be worth looking into if you can change the nozzle with one from one of their pre mixed cans. So much better coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Oooooh what a good idea. I hadn't even considered that! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Look what I dided! At some point I'm going to have to go over the aeroflex some more, but until I can work out how to use that nozzle I'm not playing ball. I'm really happy with the fuselage - had another application do white and et voila! I would like to paint over some of the blue - can I spray the paint into a contained area and paint that way with a brush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunter1969 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 When spraying from a can, after you've used it turn the can upside down and press the nozzle until no paint comes out, this keeps the nozzle free from paint. Also give it a wipe with a rag with thinners on it just to be extra sure no paint is left on the nozzle. I do this all the time with Halfords paints and have had no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Brilliant, I'll try that again. I had turned the can upside down to do this, but I will try again. Unfortunately I'm trying to put together the underbelly of the A380 by dry fitting first. I'm finding that the belly itself just doesn't seem to fit and there's going to need to be some sort of significant manoeuvring of the fuselage in order to accommodate it. Is this a known problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thought I'd add a bit more to my problem above. The underbelly will not fit with the fuselage in its current 'straight' position. The middle of the fuselage has to be contorted slightly in order to accommodate one side of the belly. I haven't even tried yet to do it with both sides attached to each other yet. It isn't going to go together without a fight, that's for sure. I'm just not sure myself how to move on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Try gently scraping the paint bleeds with the edge of a brand new razor knife blade. This will get rid of most of it without doing too much damage to the underlying paint. You may need to mask the blue and spray more white to cover what remains after that. Agree there Jess - or you can use the tip of a cocktail stick which has saved my work many a time in the past - someone else on the forum gave me the tip years ago and it has got me out of plenty of leaky messes since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi I've just dropped in on your build for the first time - good luck with the kit, I made this a year or so back and ended up selling it as a completed diorama. It looks like you have a wealth of Airbus knowledge being brought to you by others on the forum here so I wont go adding anything other than my recommendation to use a decal for the cockpit windows in case you drop them in the fuselage when gluing them in. This thread may help you - and good luck with the build. You've picked a great choice of airliner and livery. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234961237-british-airways-1144-a380-last-lap-home-above-the-m4/?hl=%2Bbritish+%2Bairways+%2Ba380 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi I've just dropped in on your build for the first time - good luck with the kit, I made this a year or so back and ended up selling it as a completed diorama. It looks like you have a wealth of Airbus knowledge being brought to you by others on the forum here so I wont go adding anything other than my recommendation to use a decal for the cockpit windows in case you drop them in the fuselage when gluing them in. This thread may help you - and good luck with the build. You've picked a great choice of airliner and livery. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234961237-british-airways-1144-a380-last-lap-home-above-the-m4/?hl=%2Bbritish+%2Bairways+%2Ba380 Won't lie - I've been modelling this build on your build!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi Rybeast, I can't help thinking you'd find it easier if you'd assembled the fuselage and possibly the wings before painting? I know everyone has their own way of doing things, but you may find it easier to achieve a better result if you sort out seams and fit issues, such as you mentioned with the belly, before applying the paint. I would generally leave the engines, undercarriage and horizontal stabilisers off and paint them separately. There are different schools of thought about fitting the wings, but I think if they fit well enough you can paint them separately, otherwise it may be best to fit them and sort out any fit issues first. There's obviously a balance to be struck between ease of painting/masking and quality of the overall finish. From my experience with this kit, you need to be quite careful to get the wing dihedral angle right, otherwise it won't sit on all it's wheels properly and the inner engines can tend to sit a bit low to the ground. Cheers, Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi Turbulence, I paint all the parts separately as they've all gone together quite well without being attached to the main fuselage. I'm planning on doing th model without the wheels, and therefore in terms of the plane resting on them I'm not too concerned. I would however, have had the same problem with the underbelly fixing together had I painted before or stuck together. It is this I'm trying to remedy. It isn't just a thing of it not fitting very well, it doesn't fit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 So in terms of how big the spillage is: have a photo. As you can see, the edges of the piece spill out either side of the fuselage, and even the length isn't great. I'm really not happy with having to sand down or cut any of it out, so what would my options be? Is it that the fuselage needs to manually be rounded by hand? What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Won't lie - I've been modelling this build on your build!! Then I am flattered you believe it good enough to base your own on - PM me if you need some free spare BA decals as I probably have loads left over. I bodged the tail fin decal first time round on mine and Ray at 26 came to my rescue and sent me a free spare sheet which probably still has a spare flight deck decal on it if you are going to go that route Ta - John Edited September 30, 2015 by Gimme Shelter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 It's a little bit difficult to tell without seeing what's going on at the front of the belly, but I think the most important bit will be to make the openings for the undercarriage bays line up and work from there. It's a number of years since I assembled mine, but I don't recall having and major issues with the fit of this part (although my memory is a little suspect these days!). I would glue the fuselage halves together first and then tackle the belly. If necessary, you could try gluing small tabs around the edge of the opening in the fuselage, before trying to get the belly in. There should be some flex in the fuselage to allow you to gently pry the sides apart and get it in. As you alluded to above, I suspect the problem is that the two halves have become a bit flattened since they left the moulding machine, so things should fit ok if you can force them back into their proper shape. Good luck. Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Trust us Rybeast - if you are having fuselage issue now its probably going to get worse Just take the plunge and go get sticky and tapey and get the port and starboard halves together. You can repaint/re-spray later on once you have the fuselage properly joined. The fuselage join will need a tad filling and touching up anyway, so you may just as well get them joined now and the kit will then do what you need it to do around the undercarriage box area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 I've been really poorly with this faux cold going around. Ended up with tonsillitis and a chest infection so not been gluing or taping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 There's a lot going around. Get well soon! Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thank you. Turned a corner today hopefully, so we'll see! My spare replacement parts (engines) arrived today. Once they've been primed - I'm hoping to do the inner engines in enamel, and the outer in acrylic. That way I'm hoping I can 'close' the inner engine when it comes to using lacquer and the like. Seems a simple enough plan - you guys have the experience to tell me whether it will work or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thank you. Turned a corner today hopefully, so we'll see! My spare replacement parts (engines) arrived today. Once they've been primed - I'm hoping to do the inner engines in enamel, and the outer in acrylic. That way I'm hoping I can 'close' the inner engine when it comes to using lacquer and the like. Seems a simple enough plan - you guys have the experience to tell me whether it will work or not! Hi matey I must have missed something beforehand here - whats this about spare/replacement engines - have you bought some resins - if so, please show and tell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Just spares from Revell, I think: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234989419-revell-spares/ Sorry to dash your excitement... Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Sorry - no resin parts! Replacements from Revell I'm afraid! Looking at this image: the outer part of the engine is in a few colours. The cone is a rustic red, the outer rom is metallic, but ways the dark colour? Is it a black? Or a very dark blue? The decal sheet doesn't give me any ideas as to a colour to go for! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It looks black from over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 After 'a bit of use' that pretty black goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybeast Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Pleased with my engine efforts thus far. Here the innards are painted and nearly ready for decoration! On the engine casket, are the silver rectangles outward from the aircraft - I.e. On the far right on the left, and far left on the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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