Bertie McBoatface Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Things are moving together from all over the world. A set of brass and aluminium gun barrels have been dispatched from Tarnów, near Krakow in Poland. [£10] These books are coming from the Amazon (Brasil ). I did a school history project on the Russo-Japanese War in 1968 (the project, not the war), and this is all quite nostalgic for me. Personal involvement, no matter how convoluted, is necessary to maintain my interest in the autumn and winter of a project. The techniques book is, I hope, the one that Andy recommended. [£18] My PE order is in the Hands of White Ensign in Leominster, UK. [£43] Finally, just for fun I've ordered a 10 RUBLEI Banknote of TRANSNISTRIA (1994) from an eBayer in Santa Fe, New Mexico. This carries a portrait of the original Knyaz Suvarov, the Nineteenth Century general which I thought might look good on the stand. [£3] Seventy-four quid invested already. I hope this build takes as long as I anticipate so I get my money's worth (Bearing in mind that 2012 is the year that I economise on this hobby ). There's another incentive to finish the thing though. And Andy, that's a fascinating photograph but I'm not biting - the kit stand is fine. Did you notice the small child on the gangway at the bow? I'm also very impressed with the health and safety provisions for the gang of platers working up high on the stern. No wonder the shipyards killed so many men. Edited December 29, 2011 by per ardua ad ostentationem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 I have a slight hold up while White Ensign restocks with the PE set. It was good of them to let me know what was happening, I thought. There's no rushing with ships though, is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Look forward to seeing you have a go at this Don. Just in case you don't think you've got enough reading material for the coffee table, I have recently three really good cheap books (the sort of thing sold in the 'Works'.) Hore, Peter. The Ironclads. An Illustrated history of the Battleships from 1860-through to the First World War. (Southwater, 2006, 2008) Hore, Peter. Battleships of World War I. (Southwater 2006,2008) Ireland, Bernard. The Illustrated Guide to Cruisers. (Hermes House, 2008) I paid £3 for each of them. Lots of lovely photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Oh, and seeing as modelling Tsushima battleships seems to be a national pastime in Russia, there's quite a bit of photographic reference out there for these ships. No doubt helped along by the more liberal interpretation of copyright in Russia. http://navsource.narod.ru/photos/01/029/index.html Knowing your eye for pleasing human-interest details in your models, I for one would love to see you model Suvorov with her hammocks on deck and the sailors' rig hanging out to dry in the rigging... (see photo 11 above) Will Edited January 4, 2012 by Killingholme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) ill just leave this here and let the idea start to take root;)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Oreg..._dock,_1898.jpg Fantastic photograph. Great details. I like the men working on the funnel caps. Their little rig looks like it runs up the funnels, but the ropes are cleated-off on the deck- they therefore have no control of moving it up or down themselves. Do you think they were told by the men down on deck 'you can come down when you've run out of spit and/or polish.'? It also appears that Laurel and Hardy are helping repair the stbd. propeller blade... Will Edited January 4, 2012 by Killingholme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Oh, and seeing as modelling Tsushima battleships seems to be a national pastime in Russia, there's quite a bit of photographic reference out there for these ships. No doubt helped along by the more liberal interpretation of copyright in Russia.http://navsource.narod.ru/photos/01/029/index.html Knowing your eye for pleasing human-interest details in your models, I for one would love to see you model Suvorov with her hammocks on deck and the sailors' rig hanging out to dry in the rigging... (see photo 11 above) Will Hello Will, thanks for that link. There are some amazing photos there. I also used the site to Google in Russian and picked up several more excellent pictures, both photos and paintings, and an excellent built up example of the model. I am normally careful not to use someone else's model as a reference but in this case I'll make an exception. If I get close to that, I'll be very pleased. AND! My gun barrels arrived from Poland today. Nice. As to human interest, am I ready for 1/350 figures? Hmmmm. These are the officers, mostly killed at Tsushima a year later, when the Suvorov was reduced to the appearance of "a brazier of the type used for roasting chestnuts" before being capsized and sunk by torpedoes. Edited January 4, 2012 by per ardua ad ostentationem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Something tells me this is the beginning of another masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Something tells me this is the beginning of another masterpiece. First boat? It's unlikely to be other than 'satisfactory' to 'marginal'. That will be god enough for me. This is not false modesty, just realism. I'm not letting you put me on a pedestal here because I will be working in the dark a lot of the time and it's very easy to fall off pedestals in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basosz Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The picture of the crew is awesome... those are some serious Russians ! One looks like Lenin, another is a dead ringer for Putin and almost all have the insanely cool Russian style moustache. Brilliant !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danila Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Hello. I am Russian and I assure you we are also building a model, sometimes when we do not drink vodka and do not ride on the bears. This is a joke. From this set difficult to build a historically accurate model, it is very close to Borodino, but you still need a lot of rework. Here are three links with a description of the construction of three models of battleships Borodino type Russian language. but the author shows a lot of photos of the process of construction. Blog about Borodino Blog about Emperor Alexander III Blog about Orel I think you can help. Regards Danila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 In a show of Solidarity with Don I've just brought the Hasagawa IJN Mikasa so once you've finished your build there will be something ready to Sink it we can have our own mini Russi Japanese war GB hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) The picture of the crew is awesome... those are some serious Russians ! One looks like Lenin, another is a dead ringer for Putin and almost all have the insanely cool Russian style moustache. Brilliant !! They are much younger than I'd expected. Poor lads! Hello.I am Russian and I assure you we are also building a model, sometimes when we do not drink vodka and do not ride on the bears. This is a joke. From this set difficult to build a historically accurate model, it is very close to Borodino, but you still need a lot of rework. Here are three links with a description of the construction of three models of battleships Borodino type Russian language. but the author shows a lot of photos of the process of construction. Blog about Borodino Blog about Emperor Alexander III Blog about Orel I think you can help. Regards Danila. Thanks Danilla, those blogs are great fun, especially when translated by Google. They are also very useful. In a show of Solidarity with Don I've just brought the Hasagawa IJN Mikasa so once you've finished your build there will be something ready to Sink it we can have our own mini Russi Japanese war GB hehe Just stay away from Torpedo Boats and give me a fair fight. This came today: It's that banknote with the picture of the original Prince Alexander Suvorov. It's intended for livening up the stand. Cool quiff! Edited January 7, 2012 by per ardua ad ostentationem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p-26luvr Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 One thing about looking at all of these threads, I am learning a lot about the real ships history, & what the earlier ones looked like. Carl T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 One thing about looking at all of these threads, I am learning a lot about the real ships history, & what the earlier ones looked like. Carl T That's half the pleasure for me Carl. I wrote a History project on the Russo-Japanese War when I was 12 and it's great to revisit the period 34 years later. The White Ensign PE is now back in stock and on its way to me. I should be making a start soon but this won't be a rushed job. I estimate a year to finish her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danila Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hello Don. There is a new set of additions to this model - resin turrets 12 and 6 inch guns, and smoke funnels. Here are a few photos. The manufacturer is a company in Russia - Complect ZiP. E-mail in first photo. Regards Danila. P.S. This is not advertisement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Looking good buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Looking good buddy. Slow down Jim, I ain't started yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 That White Ensign consignment arrived safely this morning. I've never seen 1/350 scale ship etched brass before. Oh dear! It's so incredibly delicate that I know I'll mangle at least half of it. It has helped me make my mind up about one thing though, I am definitely going to waterline the boat. I'll need the base to protect the etch and the rigging from my own clumsy handling. I will also be able to weather the thing which will hide a lot of probably sloppy construction! After a voyage of 18,000 miles from St Petersburg to the unfortunate incident at Tsushima, the "nd Pacific Squadron was looking quite battered and filthy. They burned a half-million tons of coal on the trip with much sooty fallout. They encountered at least one hurricane to blast and fade the paintwork. They are reported to have accumulated a couple of feet of weed at the waterline too. So there's plenty of excuses for a 'weary warrior look'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Sounds like you have a plan coming together Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Slow down Jim, I ain't started yet! I always consider the preparation to be part of the task as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I always consider the preparation to be part of the task as well Like Abe Lincoln sharpening his saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Hello Don.There is a new set of additions to this model - resin turrets 12 and 6 inch guns, and smoke funnels. Here are a few photos. The manufacturer is a company in Russia - Complect ZiP. E-mail in first photo. Regards Danila. P.S. This is not advertisement. Hello Danila, These are tempting. However, I have the White Ensign etch now and I think that will improve the kit turrets enough for this build. Thanks for telling me though, just in case of a shipyard disaster! Edited February 9, 2012 by per ardua ad ostentationem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Great to hear you're waterlining it. Ships belong in the sea! I understand that the action of the sea on ships can be very harsh on the paintwork. The trans-Atlantic liners needed repainting after their maiden voyage because the sea would strip the paint on the forefoot clean off. Here's a picture of RMS Olympic arriving in NY after her first voyage- note the patchy/ worn-off paint on the waterline. Once the ship was repainted a couple of times the paint always seemed to 'key' better and lasted longer- making this pattern of weathering very much a 'new ship' phenomenon. http://darthdevious.blogspot.com/2011/11/ship-history-6.html Will Edited February 9, 2012 by Killingholme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://darthdevious.blogspot.com/2011/11/ship-history-6.html That's a great link, thoroughly enjoyed reading that! Don, good luck with the weathering idea, sounds very interesting. Just be careful not to overdo it! Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'm sorry guys but I'm not going to continue this thread any further. See post 828 on this thread for the full story. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...mp;#entry964155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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