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Horatio Gruntfuttock

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    Bathurst NSW Australia
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    72nd aircraft - British, French, Italian, Rafwaffe

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  1. It's all part of the fun isn't it? Thank heavens we have some of the real things left to measure up and blokes like John to pass on the info.
  2. I have to agree with you Roger and that is why I am not a rivet counter as a modeller - If it looks like the plane then that is good enough for me. We all know the hoo-ha that went on about Spitfire wing drawings a couple of decades ago but, as reviewer I need to do some research and present my findings to the modeller so he/she can make their own mind up. So that is what I have been doing and as a reasonably long-standing member of Air Britain, I have used their material for my cross-checking, especially as I do not have easy access to the real thing - as you say is difficult to rely on published drawings that may not always be reproduced true to scale anyway. My nearest Proctor is about 800km away and I suspect it is a MkIV anyway! And then we have issues with actual length of the aircraft as against projected length on the ground which I believe is used in some drawings - down that path there be dragons! 90.3 mm for the fuselage length? , I presume this is from stern post to cowling tip? Mine measures 94mm, although if I discount the cowling nose then it is very close to 90mm to the panel line. The overall length with rudder and provide prop is 110mm and 111mm with the tail-light for the Proctor included. It is interesting to look at the side of the box tops for the Dora Wings kits which for the Proctor I state Length as 112mm ( actually 108mm) and Wingspan as 168mm ( correct according to published dimensions), but for the two Vega Gull kits the quoted dimensions are length 164mm and wingspan 153mm - crikey!! Some one has made a mistake there - many a slip twixt brain and typing finger methinks! Anyhoo, lets not quibble but just accept that now we do have at last a lovely little kit to embellish with all the wonderful schemes that graced the skies in the 1930s, and after the war in the form of converted Proctors. Thanks for the comments, which have given me cause to pause.
  3. Thanks Dora for three wonderful little Percivals. Thanks also to John Adams for his outline of the dimension variations and explanations of the fuselage anomalies. I have all of these kits and laying the parts over the drawings in the Air Britain book by David Gearing, "On the Wings of a Gull", page 363 ( which claim to be 'undoubtedly the most accurate drawings ever published', page 359 ) all the horizontal surfaces are a perfect match but the fuselage is 4mm short for the Vega Gull and 5mm short for the Proctor. Given John's explanation and the claims in the book from the AB team that "In researching this book........, it became clear that existing technical drawings of almost all the aircraft types were substantially inaccurate. .... Paul Jackson, .... has created these drawings after re-measuring many of the aircraft ..." page 359, then we do have a bit of a conundrum as far as the fuselage is concerned. Nonetheless, they look like Vega Gulls as does the Proctor I. As for the interiors, these are all the same, and the instructions show the same parts and construction for all three versions. The PE set contains the wee radio shelf for the rear cabin wall for the Proctor but does not show this the instructions so you will have to make up your own internal arrangement - the proper military seats are provided but not referred to. The modeller can build any of the earlier Proctor I, II and III versions, as well as the Vega Gull from these kits, and don't throw the FROG kit away as it portrays the later versions with their longer and deeper fuselages quite well. A fuller review will appear on Hyperscale in due course. Hope that clarifies some questions and that I have not trod on any toes.
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    Albatross, Get Your Albatross Here!

    This is looking wonderful - I built the AIM vacform yonks ago - the article is in SAM Volume 22/8 October 2000 - although now you will all know my real name - coyses!! The Valom kit looks to be slightly easier to build although I still have another AIM kit in the stash , calling softly to me, "come and build me Horatio!" I believe there is an interior shot in Aeroplane Monthly June or July 1990. Keep up the amazing work.
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    Timm N2T-1 Tutor 1/72nd vac

    Looks like a nice simple vacform - always good to cut one's teeth on these. I have built 35-40 vacs and enjoy the challenge - real modelling skills, although mine often cause cock-ups! This should look mighty purdy in civil colours.
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    Sanger 1/48 Stirling Mk.I BF372 - Ron Middleton VC

    Just stumbled on this build - Splendid work so far. I have plans to build a flying pose model of Middleton's aircraft as it was just before crashing, based on information in the book "Middleton VC" which gives a pretty detailed description of the damage. An amazingly brave, unselfish and dedicated man who for a while lived close by where I live. I also visited his grave in 2014 when in the UK. My model will be using the ancient AIrfix kit. I will follow this build to see how you present his aircraft.
  7. That is great job on that old flash-monster. Well done with your construction, paint and decalling.
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    Dornier Do J Wal Amodel 1:72

    Regardless of the colour discussion Max, they are scrum-diddly-umptious builds and finished products - what a wonderfully colourful addition to a cabinet.
  9. Horatio Gruntfuttock

    Revell 1/72 Avro Shackleton AEW.2

    Lovely job on model I really must get on to as i have three in the stash. Are these the kit decals?
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    I realise that this is not the right spot, but

    Thanks Carl, it was nice to chat with some fellow modellers and see some of your fine work on display in such a great aviation environment. If anyone out there has the chance to get to Tangmere on , I believe, the third Saturday, then call and have chat to nice chaps of the Tangmere Sector Modellers.
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    I realise that this is not the right spot, but

    Safely back in Oz, Jonners - it was great to meet up with a Britmodeller and have a chat. As you say over there , that Helicopter is one impressive piece of kit! It was also good to put face to a name and to meet, albeit briefly, the original 'Winch Wench' of TV programme fame - yup, we did get the film down here on the telly. Met up with some chaps from the Tangmere Sector Modellers on Saturday as well. Ain't t'internet wonderful!
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    Model kit box art

    Ah the smell of paint! I recently opened a Humbrol tin that must have been 45-50 years old - remember the browny grid pattern on those old tins? The smell ( the lead??) caused a flood of memories - 'Monday,Monday' (Mommas and the Papas) Simon and Garfunkel, Dave Clark Five, and Airfix Quads & 25 pounders, Matadors and Shermans being painted Humbrol #3 with patches of #10. Earning a pound selling programmes at the rugby on Saturday and spending it all at Cavanagh's toyshop on Monday afternoon, usually at least five Series 1s and having them done by the next Saturday. Maybe its the lead that stops me recalling last week! Then - 10 models a month plus school, chores and other hobbies Now - about 15-18 a year ( I've just completed number 8 for 2018) AND I'M RETIRED!!
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    If not Modelling.. Then What?

    Bit of bird-watching (feathered variety ! although you can never be too old to cast an appreciative eye over some young thing), gardening, growing plants , service with my Lions Club, part of the committee overseeing our War Memorial Community Hall and taking my 45 year-old Renault 16TS for a fang. Been modelling since 1958, with very few breaks - it was a great stress reliever at the end of a week at the front of classroom.
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    Hobby Boss 1/72 Rafale M

    Now you chaps are blurring the real with the miniature - I don't know what to believe, except that the original is a pretty amazing piece of paint work, not entirely my cup of tea but still amazing work - well done - perhaps we need a demonstration or a step-by-step?
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    I realise that this is not the right spot, but

    Hi Admiral - I managed to persuade our hosts to provide me with a broad-rimmed hat in the company colours to protect my ears from the 'sun'. Only four sleeps mate!