Airborne SF Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Looking for experts on the early BF-109E models. The two cowl MG-17 machine guns were mounted in an ofset position. The right side gun was mounted slightly behind the left hand gun due to the position of the ammunition boxes and the feeds to the guns. The is meant that the ends of the barrels were at different distances behind the nose. They barrels fire through a (let's call it a trough as I don't know the proper term) in the cowling over the engine. Were the back ends of these troughs also offset, i.e., was one further back than the other? I have yet to find a picture showing the troughs to advantage as it would have to be taken from above looking down on the nose. This gun arraingment was redone in the "F" models, I believe, but I could be wrong on that. Picture attached showing what I'm referring to. Any answers would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne SF Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 Here's the link to the image. I'm doing something wrong trying to post it. http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/bf109-WRG-0032314.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Well, basicly correct. Until E versions only! On F versions different, which was basic for later G versions. Please look to many original photos from asisbiz.com! Happy modelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty84 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 If you are talking about the gun openings in the cowl, they were not offset, neither on the E or any other variant. Here you can see the gun throughs on an 'Emil': https://assets-global.website-files.com/60d3c6d0e106af90561564f7/60f69f8f3462c82332adae23_RAF-AE479--Messerschmitt-Bf-109E-3---Wk--Nr--1304---9-.jpeg https://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/MY/MY86-2/4-2.jpg Cheers Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 the linked photo There is particular detail in the above photo that is misleading. At the front of each gun are the sleeves which are the blast tubes, designed to minimize the amount of muzzle residue coming back into the aircraft when the MG17 are fired. In the image they look staggered but I think the near one is unstrapped and was slid backwards, otherwise they should line up parallel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatG Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) I've seen pics where Emil cowlings were removed in the field for respraying and both apertures lined up on all of them. Pat. Edited December 16, 2023 by PatG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne SF Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 Thank you for your reponses. I appreciate those of you who responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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