wellzy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Hi Guys here we go again, want to build a British a Stuart in Normandy used by the Recon units such as the Sherwood Rangers, got photos but only from the rear,can't tell which version was used , Thanks for looking , wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergas Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Howdy, I don't know if its just me... but i don't see any photos 🤔 cheers David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Very well camouflaged - I can't spot it at all! 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I believe you can use any of M5A1, M3A3, M3A1 or even M3 depending on unit. There are many side and front views on Mr Google. Sherwood Rangers were not a "recon unit", they were an armoured regiment equipped with Shermans. British armoured regiments in NW Europe each had a Recce Troop with M3 or M5 light tanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Sorry Guys left out the most important details atm I'm reading James Holland's book Brothers in Arms which is where l saw the photos of the M 3s possibly in Nijmegen sector belonging to the recon troop so l don't know if this helps ? Cheers wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Mr Google is your friend here as usual. Here is a selection. The top 3 photos are said to be a Sherwood Rangers Recce Tp tank. I can't tell if it's a late M3 or an M3A1, probably the latter. I was once planning to do something like this using the new-ish Tamiya kit. The right hand top photo is on the Sherwood Rangers website, so I guess that makes it so. AOS 996 fits for Sherwood Rangers as part of 8th Armd Bde in NW Europe. I do not know the meaning of C240 on the fender: it's a bit far into the campaign to be an LCT marking. These 3 photos fit with the James Holland description, noting the Nijmegen sign. No idea of a unit on this one. Clearly somewhere in NW Europe with US troops. Suggests Holland and Market-Garden again. M3(A1?) with lower wading trunk still attached. I can't make any sense of the AOS ending in 74 with what looks like a 2 in front. M3A3s were out there too with some units (AFV Club kit). Can't make out any unit markings. The fender markings are LCT loading. This is an M5A1 from an Armd Regt Recce Tp. AOS 53 - 3rd senior Regt in Bde. Can't make out the Division. (AFV Club kit better than Tamiya) Edited November 1, 2022 by Kingsman addition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 As there is no model here to inspect, this thread might be better moved into the WW2 discussion forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 17 hours ago, Kingsman said: M3(A1?) with lower wading trunk still attached. I can't make any sense of the AOS ending in 74 with what looks like a 2 in front. I believe this one is Recce Troop, 144 RAC, 33rd Armoured Brigade, Op Charnwood, 8 July 1944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hodges & Taylor and Bellis both agree on AOS 174 for 144 RAC in 33 AB in the Op Charnwood period. I can't make out the AOS on the M4, even enlarged. 144 were 2nd Senior and so should be 174, behind Northants Yeomanry with 173 and ahead of 148 RAC with 175. Bde HQ used 172. I'm still sure the digit in front of the 7 is a 2. Nothing else has a foot like that. But I can't find a 274 and 1274 is RE Beach Groups. So I guess that hidden digit must be a 1 with a serif foot, which would be less usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 18 hours ago, wellzy said: Sorry Guys left out the most important details You also dumped it in Ready for Inspection. I'd suggest taking more water with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Kingsman said: Hodges & Taylor and Bellis both agree on AOS 174 for 144 RAC in 33 AB in the Op Charnwood period. I can't make out the AOS on the M4, even enlarged. 144 were 2nd Senior and so should be 174, behind Northants Yeomanry with 173 and ahead of 148 RAC with 175. Bde HQ used 172. I'm still sure the digit in front of the 7 is a 2. Nothing else has a foot like that. But I can't find a 274 and 1274 is RE Beach Groups. So I guess that hidden digit must be a 1 with a serif foot, which would be less usual. There are other shots in the sequence which show the 174 AOS on the Shermans (with 144 RAC's distinctive turret numbers) - B6652 on the IWM Collections website is a good one (link below), and there's another Stuart alongside, though further away. The bottom of the '2' that you see may possibly be dirt, a speck on the image or light reflecting from something projecting from the edge of the trunking? https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205205989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 21 hours ago, Kingsman said: Mr Google is your friend here as usual. Here is a selection. The top 3 photos are said to be a Sherwood Rangers Recce Tp tank. I can't tell if it's a late M3 or an M3A1, probably the latter. I was once planning to do something like this using the new-ish Tamiya kit. The right hand top photo is on the Sherwood Rangers website, so I guess that makes it so. AOS 996 fits for Sherwood Rangers as part of 8th Armd Bde in NW Europe. I do not know the meaning of C240 on the fender: it's a bit far into the campaign to be an LCT marking. These 3 photos fit with the James Holland description, noting the Nijmegen sign. No idea of a unit on this one. Clearly somewhere in NW Europe with US troops. Suggests Holland and Market-Garden again. M3(A1?) with lower wading trunk still attached. I can't make any sense of the AOS ending in 74 with what looks like a 2 in front. M3A3s were out there too with some units (AFV Club kit). Can't make out any unit markings. The fender markings are LCT loading. This is an M5A1 from an Armd Regt Recce Tp. AOS 53 - 3rd senior Regt in Bde. Can't make out the Division. (AFV Club kit better than Tamiya) Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armor Novice Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) On 01/11/2022 at 22:02, Kingsman said: M3(A1?) with lower wading trunk still attached. I can't make any sense of the AOS ending in 74 with what looks like a 2 in front. This picture in the IWM archive is B 6659 and caption is about 33rd armoured brigade during the attack on Caen Edited November 26, 2022 by Armor Novice Misspell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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