T-34 Question

[sweaty]

Lo Chaps, i found a Tamiya T-34/76 1943 productin Model in a charty shop for a couple of quid but the tracks were knackered so i thought id try out the Friulmodel white metal tracks as a small treat. So i got my LHS to get me some in and got the same model number tracks but they are a different style from the kt ones and say 1940 on the box. Can i use them?

Im doing a early T-34/76 according to the insturctions, but i know very little about tanks.

The kit number is 59 and the tracks are ATL-38

Greatful for any help

Jamie

[BWP]

Im doing a early T-34/76 according to the insturctions, but i know very little about tanks.

The kit number is 59 and the tracks are ATL-38

The T-34 had several different types of tracks, depending on which factory and what period of the war it was manufactured. (There were also various types of tracks available for different ground conditions.)

ATL-38 are the earliest types of tracks, which had been phased out by 1943.

Somewhat bizarrely Friulmodel don't appear to make a set of tracks directly suitable for a T-34 Model 1943. You could get away with ATL-09 (T-34/85) as the Model 1943 remained in active service until the end of the war and could easily have been fitted with later-style tracks.

Modelkasten set SK-34 ("T-34 M42") would be perfectly OK, or AFV Club AF35173 ("T-34 500mm Width Cast Links Type 1942 (Workable)") would work fine. I'm sure there are other resin sets out there as well.

Alternately, you could try contacting Tamiya directly; I'm sure they can supply you with replacement rubber band tracks (presumably for a small fee).

Edited December 31, 2010 by BWP

[vonmarkenhausen]

Considering the Russians built 60000 T-34's does it really matter?

[BWP]

Considering the Russians built 60000 T-34's does it really matter?

Does what really matter? Accuracy in a model kit? It matters as much as the builder wants it to matter.

You seem to be implying that because there were lots of T-34s built that therefore parts cast in 1940 were applied to tanks built in 1945, or vice-versa? Sure, and let's put jet engines in a Battle of Britain Spitfire. Does it really matter?

[vonmarkenhausen]

Well who's to know they didn't. Surplus parts in wartime? A retro fit? Get as many old bangers out of the tractor factory, before comrade Stalin has you shot? His five year plans were infamous. Never heard of a Spitfire jet? Wouldn't be surprised if there was a prototype though? Interesting "what If" build!

[sweaty]

BWP

Thanks for the reply, ive been playing with the ones i got trying to blacken them with the Vingar and bleach method, they can now be used as test tracks for any other exprements.

Im going to order some of the ATL-09 (T-34/85) tracks as they look meaner and are as you say a safer bet for this model

Thanks for your help

All the best Jamie

[BWP]

Well who's to know they didn't.

You will clearly be astonished to discover that the answer to that question is "people who have researched the topic of T-34s, including where, when and how they were built".

Look, if you want to stick fins on your tank models, or strap jet engines to the bottom of your Spitfire models, or just build everything upside-down, that's entirely up to you. They're your models, you should please yourself, and more power to you for doing so. However, the original poster was asking about his model and was clearly concerned about accuracy (or he would never have bothered to ask the question at all). So I'm sure you can understand how your posts have not actually been very useful or relevant, yes?

Edited January 7, 2011 by BWP

[vonmarkenhausen]

I was thinking of strapping a scale version of the ashes cup to future models, If you don't mind Bruce??

[Irishgreek]

This is the point Matt Roberts would jump in and make one of his tension removing comments, I think...

RIP Matt

[mrcooljules]

This is the point Matt Roberts would jump in and make one of his tension removing comments, I think...

RIP Matt

ditto.

anyone can build their kits how they want, but if someone wants some info to make it that litlte more correct fine its what i would do, but some people like to tell other people how to make models for them, or offer no advice what so ever....and then get sarcastic

[sweaty]

ditto.

anyone can build their kits how they want, but if someone wants some info to make it that litlte more correct fine its what i would do, but some people like to tell other people how to make models for them, or offer no advice what so ever....and then get sarcastic

Thanks mate, i could not post what i wanted to, to the replys by vonmarkenhausen as i would be banned, thanks again to Bruce for taking the time to wirte a proper response answering my questions.

And i think it was closer to 54000 T-34's, than 60000.... not a wiki answer

Please don't use my post's to be a smart bottom, i don't like it, and don't try to take the micky outta of a kind chap that takes the time to answers my question.

All the best , Jamie

[BWP]

thanks again to Bruce for taking the time to wirte a proper response answering my questions

Glad I could help.

And just in case anyone was wondering ... gosh, I'm Australian, we lost the Ashes, I guess I must be feeling vulnerable to any biting remarks about it. The pain, the pain!! Oh, wait, I don't actually really care all that much. Oh well.

[mrcooljules]

Glad I could help.

And just in case anyone was wondering ... gosh, I'm Australian, we lost the Ashes, I guess I must be feeling vulnerable to any biting remarks about it. The pain, the pain!! Oh, wait, I don't actually really care all that much. Oh well.

you didnt lose the ashes..............you were hammered lol

i cant stand cricket, hate it, bores me, but hey.....its one hell of a good win against you :-)

[sweaty]

Progess so far

Then some top coat

And the tracks

Will change them for the later type when ive got some spare funds, plus i can the build a early T-34 with the tracks already sorted.

All the best, Jamie

[stevehnz]

I know not a think about whether or not those are the correct tracks but I do know a nice bit of modelling & that is surely one. I recall making up the 1/76 Airfix T34 with their nasty vinyl trackes aeons ago & tracks apart I have always had a soft spot for them but that is a superb bit of modelling & nice looking kit. The weld lines look beaut. Nice going. Don't tell us when you put the correct tracks on & I'll see if I can tell. By the way, that isn't a mickey take. In that scale if its important to you then it IS worth getting it right.

Steve.

Edited January 12, 2011 by stevehnz

[modelmaker]

Lo Chaps, i found a Tamiya T-34/76 1943 productin Model in a charty shop for a couple of quid but the tracks were knackered so i thought id try out the Friulmodel white metal tracks as a small treat. So i got my LHS to get me some in and got the same model number tracks but they are a different style from the kt ones and say 1940 on the box. Can i use them?

Im doing a early T-34/76 according to the insturctions, but i know very little about tanks.

The kit number is 59 and the tracks are ATL-38

Greatful for any help

Jamie

totally unr4elated to any of this, I model aircraft but, like many of us, I am interested in everything else too; what sparked my interest on seeing your topic was that today, quite coincidentally, I was passing the village of Fromes Hill in Herefordshire where, on top of a hill, outside an army/navy store there in the middle of nowhere, is a T34! I know there are a few round about the place, but always worth stopping to see.I think it is one with an 85 mm gun, but someone reading this will know (I'm sure).... good luck with yours; I saw one like this (I think) while we were camping in France last year. the Messieurs have a FINE tank museum at Saumur. my wife thought it was uncanny how there always seems to be a museum somewhere near wherever we go on holiday!!!

[sweaty]

totally unr4elated to any of this, I model aircraft but, like many of us, I am interested in everything else too; what sparked my interest on seeing your topic was that today, quite coincidentally, I was passing the village of Fromes Hill in Herefordshire where, on top of a hill, outside an army/navy store there in the middle of nowhere, is a T34! I know there are a few round about the place, but always worth stopping to see.I think it is one with an 85 mm gun, but someone reading this will know (I'm sure).... good luck with yours; I saw one like this (I think) while we were camping in France last year. the Messieurs have a FINE tank museum at Saumur. my wife thought it was uncanny how there always seems to be a museum somewhere near wherever we go on holiday!!!

Funny, there used to be one just off the old kent road painted pink (i think), your post just dragged the memory back up Thanks

Bit more work done

All the best Jamie

[BWP]

That's looking very smart indeed. Great work on the appearance of those tracks!

I have a couple of T-34s under my belt, all braille-scale:

Matchbox T-34-76 Model 1942 (Cast Turret) (1/76):

Fujimi T-34-76 Model 1941 (1/76):

ESCI T-34-76 Model 1942 (Cast Turret) (1/72):

Cromwell T-34-76 Model 1940 (Welded Turret) (1/76):

Cromwell T-34-76 Model 1940 (Cast Turret) (1/76):

Airfix T-34-85 (1/76):

What can I say, I like T-34s. Plenty more in the stash to build, too.