DAVE V Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I noticed this on the Hannants web site as a future release, does anyone know if this will be a new tooling or a rehash of the old Esci kit with raised panel lines ect, a new tool would be nice as i havent seen a1/48 scale one anywhere. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I noticed this on the Hannants web site as a future release, does anyone know if this will be a new tooling or a rehash of the old Esci kit with raised panel lines ect, a new tool would be nice as i havent seen a1/48 scale one anywhere. Dave Sadly a rehash of old ESCI. http://cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_2688.shtml HTH Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BushBrit66 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Dave, ISRACAST do conversions based on the ESCO Mirage IIE or Mirage 5. I have one (as well as the Esci kit) if you want a look Cheers Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE V Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 Thanks Guys, i knew i was living in hope, Sean i will be at the July meeting so iwould love to have a look at nthe conversion and the kit. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dergrunepunkt Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 If I where you, get an HobbyBoss o Eduard Mirage IIIC/CJ and use isracast conversion set, bit pricey but less painful with a much better result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 But then you got to have a close look at details, as a IIIC and a IIIE are quite different aircrafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dergrunepunkt Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 But then you got to have a close look at details, as a IIIC and a IIIE are quite different aircrafts. can you be more precise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 The E has a longer fuselage than the C for a start (IIRC). A plug was added behind the cockpit. On a C the canopy is in line with the intakes, on an E just in front. I have an ESCI boxing of this kit and agree the cockpit is complete pants (just like their F.1 which I did a few years ago). I'd be interested to know if there is an 'ideal' aftermarket cockpit that is close to a Kfirs (without buying a whole lot of other extras I don't need). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyhawk174 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 In the June 2010 issue of Military Airplane International, Cyrus Tan has part 1 of an article on building an IAF Kfir C7. He used the Eagle Designs cockpit but also scratchbuilt many details. He even replaced the seat with one from True Details which is really the ex-Black Box seat. He used the Mb. Mk.10. He started with the ESCI Mirage IIIE kit. Pretty good article as it shows you what can be done with the ESCI Mirage IIIE kit and some hard work. That Italeri Kfir kit is a rebox of the original ESCI kit and I think is not worth the money if nothing was done to the original moulds. You would think that all of ESCI's Mirage kits were made by the same team but it certainly does not look so. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dergrunepunkt Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Well so far it's the same info I had and been using to do my deltas, currently I'm converting a HobbyBoss Mirage IIIC to a IAI Nesher (baptised Dagger in Argentina), but if you leave the original nose you can have a Mirage IIIE or if you add canards and a different nose you can have a Kfir C1, and so on and so forth. Here's my WIP http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=51680 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 can you be more precise? - wings: the shape is the same, but the panel lines could be different. - fuselage: same, and the fuselage is longer as you know. - fin: shape is a bit different at the base, due to brake chute and antennas. - landing gear: strenghtened, some differences. The wheels are differents. Well, nothing impossible, but you got to Check scale plans from close-up if you want something accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dergrunepunkt Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) - wings: the shape is the same, but the panel lines could be different.- fuselage: same, and the fuselage is longer as you know. - fin: shape is a bit different at the base, due to brake chute and antennas. - landing gear: strenghtened, some differences. The wheels are differents. Well, nothing impossible, but you got to Check scale plans from close-up if you want something accurate. Cheers Antoine We didn't mention something else, Kfir's (not sure which ones) uses General Electric J79 engine instead of the ATAR (same engine that F-4 uses). Couple days ago ordered Isradecal's 'IAI Kfir in IAF Service' thinking on doing something in that direction Edited July 16, 2010 by dergrunepunkt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I was talking only about the mirage's differences between types. Btw, isradecal kfir's book is a great référence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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