Miggers

Know what you mean Billo,mine likes to play silly games on Fizzogbook. Been twiddling my thumbs for 30 minutes to get some in on my Dak while the memsahib faffs about.

Who's going to buy the beer for all those bods,they have caught the pilot leaving the flaps down............

My pet mix for early Spit cockpits: 50:50 mix of Humbrol 78 & 90. Once dry wash with thinned 78. Once dry,drybrush with 90. The 50:50 mix replicates the "Apple Green" quite well,the 78 wash just darkens the corners and the 90 drybrush lifts the structure. As told to me by "Mr Spitfire/Seafire"himself,the late great and very much missed Edgar Brookes.

Mix it with Avtur,Avcat or diesel,yes.Prolly stink a bit though.I used to know a guy that worked at Avro's(BAe Woodford)and he reckoned everyone had a diesel car that was run on a mix of Avtur and turbine oil. It's reckoned that there's only two things gas turbines don't like,dirty air and dirty fuel.

S'pose you could say it's a "multi fuel" engine

I thought he was a Chelsea man?,maybe he is for the Villa instead.

I would Steevey,pilots(even flighsim ones)and football don't normally mix too succesfully....... (though there is an aristocratic young gent that flew yeller Seakings once whom I believe is a keen Chelsea fan)

And a good sanding with 80's production paper of any sore "areas"........ Thus also avoiding the resultant rollocking from inadvertently leaving "camouflage"in the bowl,the usual after effect of the abovely mentioned viciously loosed off sonorous blast...........

Well,the plot to extracate the county set's rendition of this rather fine kit(built in 1986 no less!!!)from it's storage box and take it's mug-shots was carefully dealt a mortal blow by the management requesting to be chauffered on the current hunt for black and white "chessboard" flooring for the barthroom here at The Towers. Be assured my dear Tony,it will happen(I know I have the time,your construction of said flying machine will take weeks.....), I've got to go up there to snap a Seafire for another modeller in another galaxy(not neccessarily far,far away though) By way of a measley recompence for the lack of said C-119's mug-shots,might I point your goodself to this?.....: http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/140-italeri-c-119/page-140-c-119.html the late great Ted Taylor's original 1985 build of the first release of this kit. His notes may prove useful.

Tweeds and brogues eh,jolly impressed my dear fellow,rather like the "county set"reference too. As to the Martian's tripod,out with the old 12 bore and give it the buisness end I say,the buisness end

I was going to say P9373 is Paul Klipsch's Spit,P9374 is Peter Cazenove's

Seeing as we're supposed to be having a wet wikend (allowing one to escape from Bimmer washing fatigues and no,I won't take my guns out in the rain), I just might dig my old 119 out of it's storage box and snap a few,well,er,snaps of the old girl(she must be 20 years old now) unless of course Mrs M finds one some other task. Happy St Pat's day too.I'll have a couple tonight to celebrate.(My mother's father was Irish,so good enough for me). S'looking jolly smoove in there Tony,so as the rest of the natives say,on with the framework.

Not if he drill's the 'oles to the same size as the internal recesses that the winders sit in,heh-heh. I wouldn't use those dodgy Aeroproducts fans for light switches,what if the CSU gives up the ghost? Strobe lighting inside a 119G,strobe lighting I tell 'Eee all.

Hoo-hoo,your Uncle sounds quite the bloke to know A pair of four-bores eh,good Lord,you'd need to stand with your back to a tree to let fly with one of those rascals. I have a 1947 Stevens 711a non-ejector choked at 3/4 and full(a very tight 3/4 and full too), plus a rather nice 1973 Spanish Victor Sarasqueta 7c double ejector choked at 1/8th and 3/4. Got the Sarasqueta from our local shop who didnt really know what it was and only wanted £175 for it, needless to say I snapped his hand off. Got home and Googled it,it's worth a nice £550-700,result. The Boy however has a new Webley and Scott 900 over and under,none of the old fashioned side by side things for him, no sirree. Not sure about the "game" on there,but she's certainly a sporty looking red'ead alright.

Plenty on our shoot too(600 acres to prowl about on),the only trouble is that once the buzzards get up and orbiting in the thermals, it's time to pack up and go home. Nothing else ventures skyward once they're up.

I'd have been up at the crack and then after brekkers off across the fields to that wood for a good reconoitre into the possibilities of having wood pigeon breast for dinner. Good work Rob,the Spits are tootling along most favorably.

I assume you're talking about "powered" u/c as opposed to unpowered Sean?

The management would usher me away from THAT modelshop most robustly I can tell you.

Mostly been beating and picking up meself Tony,though the lad and I went out with our "blunderbusses"t'other week and bagged a nice hen and half a dozen woodies. Here's another good read for you if you like that sort of book: http://www.gamekeeperslife.com/TTS_Web/Welcome.html The virtual airline was "Venture Hawaii" in,well,Hawaii,the Alaskan side of it was(surprise,surprise)"Venture Alaskan". We also used DC-6C's(pretty agile for a big'un),but the 119 was more common because of the ability to lug a big load in one lump.

Hiya Tone. It's been that time of year(fields,shotguns,pheasants,etc). Told ya,there used to be a great version out there for Microsoft flight sim. About ten years ago,I used to "fly" for a virtual airline(usually 748's in Hawaii)that had a "contract"up in Alaska carting freight about the oilfields. The C119G/L was the weapon of choice(as I said,the G version replicated the Aeroproducts prop "habits"). Not only ditching,belly landings were also very best avoided,the entire cockpit section would collapse and fold under the rest of the airframe in either scenario,hence,the crew would go over the side instead of riding it down wherever possible. They were used as firebombers too,but usually in flat areas,the flaps don't really have enough authority to slow 'em down for tight valley or hilly area work.

Now then,now then,Spit/Seaf. cockpit colour eh? As has been mentioned,aft of the seat frame and for'rard of the instrument panel,do it in aloominum(as our chums across the water say). Supermarine's(and Westland's under Supermarine's directive)used a different shade of paint for the 'pit itself than anyone else did. I use a 50/50 mix of Humbrol 78 and 90(Interior grey green and Sky).Once dry,give 'er a wash of pure 78 in all the nooks and crannies followed by a drybrush of pure 90 to pop things out a bit. All yer quadrants(undiecart and throttle)along with the I/P are black. Wheel wells/doors are usually underside colour by the time the Spit V was gracing the skies. As to using pictures for reference to the particular trusty steed you wish to depict,make sure they're originals if poss,there's a lot out there of "modern" Spits,some are great restorations very close to original,some aren't. As to cracking your stuck Eyewatta hairbrush,trot along to you local car respray/body shop and ask 'em for a pint of spraygun cleaner,if that won't shift it,it's.............(insert your favorite word for "broken",a good one is "horsemucked").

I was going to mention that,scoff a few,save the shot(obviously not from down the bog!!)use it for weights in your modelling. Get yourselves a shotgun and go rough shooting. It all makes sense.

I could give you a pigeon for free Will,there's some nice fat woodies knocking about. You just have to watch out for the shot getting in your teeth.....

Quit surprised they use the Buck-19's for this. Make sure the one you want hadn't had it's propellers changed for three blade Hamilton-Standard's Tony. The four blade Aeroproducts fans were notorious for the CSU/pitch change mechanism giving up the ghost. The prop would almost certainly go into fully fine or fully coarse pitch and unless the F/E realised what was happening and shut down the engine with the duff prop very quickly ,either condition meant a blown engine with a fire. Only option then was for the pilots to hold it straight whilst the rest of the crew went over the side because the main spar was very well know for quickly burning through,and then try to get out themselves before the wing collapsed. The retro-fit from Aeroproducts props to Hamilton-Standards(usually 43H60-605's)cured the problem and made the aircraft far more reliable.AFAIK,all USAF aircraft were done.All the civvie ones still going(very few now though)ran three bladers. There used to be a great Flightsim version that had both prop options and replicated the Aeroproducts nasty habits quite well. As for the kit,I built it back when it came out(still have it stored safely up in the loft) and it makes a very impressive replica of the old Dollar-19. The'pit details up quite nicely and I believe,is largely representative. The decal sheet is pretty good,but only gives you half of the black wing walk lines that you need. From memory,the undercart is particularly good,but the mainwheel axles are fragile.I wouldn't worry too much about swapping the R-3350's,you cant see a lot of 'em.....

Korean version........I bet that's a hoot,lots of chattering and not much mouth movement.......... Ye avion kit ancien that is 'Fix's Vb is still ok,the c wing is a pony alright.