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just as I thought, there is no pleasing you is there. thanks for confirming it. Do you have to be so rude to someone who was after all taking the time to help, I shall not bother again. Bye

And there was me thinking it was a hat

Hi Siggi Just had a play with one of my flat cotes Whats you oppinion on this result, it looks flat to me but my expectations may be a lot lower than yours. Paul

There is something not quite right with those photos and the way they where taken, the gloss one is taken in a very hard light and the matt one is taken in a very soft light. Paul

Hi Siggi Just checking, when you used Humbrol s matt Cote in the round bottle, what thinner did you use. I have a couple of Matt Varnishes and will do a side by side test in the next couple of days and hopefully the results will be of use. Paul And for the un educated XDFF is?

Have you ever seen a 100% matt finish that was matt enough for you. I still suspect that you interpretation i.e. 100% zero light reflection is not physically achievable. Paul

Hi Siggi Have tou tried Vallejo Matt Varnish, I always get a good matt with it, although my definition of a good matt may be different to yours. Paul

Have you tried adding a Matt Medium to a Matt varnish I know both Tamiya and Vallejo do a matt medium, would adding that to one of their matt varnishes give a "Matter" Matt. Although I do suspect that an optical pure matt finish that Siggi is after is going to be a bit of a holly Grail type thing, knowing that he has set himself some very high standards in his requirements. It is possible that what siggi is after is just impossible to make, and that being a pure flat matt with a 100% none light reflective properties. I think he is looking for a black hole Paul

Thats good news Their AKAN 73020 4 BO Dark Green (protective base coat for military vehicles, armor and aviation) is said to be one of the better versions of 4BO Green Paul

Hi Their 50/E is good for modelling, don't worry to much about the speed, they quote the no load speed, it more than slow enough for modelling use. Paul http://www.proxxon-tools.com/tools/Proxxon...rinder_12V.html

Siggi you have been doing this long enough to know that in Modelling there are some golden rules that can never be broken The 10 rules of modelling #1 whatever you pick as Dunkelgelb will be wrong #2 whatever you pick as Olive Drab will be wrong #3 whatever you pick as Russian 4BO Green will be wrong #4 whatever you pick as Panzer Grey will be wrong #5 No mater how much you spend on an airbrush someone will find a more expensive one to make you feel Inadequate. #6 No mater how good you build a kit someone will point out the kits error making you ask "why did I bother" #7 No mater how many kits you buy to hide in your loft you will still have to buy loads more, even if they are the same as the ones you already have, but at least you have stopped someone elso from buying it and maybe building it. #8 No Matter how glossy you want your finish your gloss finish wont be glossy enough #9 No Matter how Matt you want your finish your Matt finish wont be Matt enough #10 Anything you want to build will be out of stock.

Mind you you did want to stick with your Humbrols and there are very few reasons why not, just thin them either with Humbrols own thinner or bog standard white spirit. You might find, like me that you actualy like spraying Enamels. Paul If you must change then Vallejo Model Air paints are the only ones that I know of that don't need thinning, you just pay a lot for thinner that is already in the pot, so you get less paint for your money. Or you could stick with enamels and switch to xtracolor, I find most of them are thin enough to spray from the pot. Paul

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That will depend on you paint (How thick it is) and you chosen airbrush and spray pressure. Try 25% thinner 75% paint a starter, if the paint is thick try 50/50, some Humbrol Enamel I have only need 10% thinners to spray at 15 PSI If using Cellulose try to use something like Ruskins as its not as hot as more general celluose thinners. Neat cellulose thinners will eat into plastic so be cearfull with it. Paul

Hi I just did a bit of a group test on enamel thinners and although Humbrol Thinners gave a good acount of itself good old bog standard White Spirit cam in a very close second and that was the low odour vesion as well. You can also use Cellulose thinners as well but they stink. Paul