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Did some more reading over at missinglynx, and a member there states they have a copy of the 1941 840 L containg 40 colour samples.  Compared to Chory's publication they are a "dead on match".  The only colours that can't be compared are 6003, 8017, 7028 and the four desert ones as these weren't included in 1941.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/viewtopic.php?p=1270350#p1270350

 

So I private messaged them to ask specifically about the interior colour Elfenbein.  They replied Chory is exact match to the 1941 sample.  For hobby paints, Revell's Beige/Aqua Color 36314 is suggested.

 

 

 

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 Jack

 

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15 hours ago, JackG said:

Did some more reading over at missinglynx, and a member there states they have a copy of the 1941 840 L containg 40 colour samples.  Compared to Chory's publication they are a "dead on match".  The only colours that can't be compared are 6003, 8017, 7028 and the four desert ones as these weren't included in 1941.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/viewtopic.php?p=1270350#p1270350

 

So I private messaged them to ask specifically about the interior colour Elfenbein.  They replied Chory is exact match to the 1941 sample.  For hobby paints, Revell's Beige/Aqua Color 36314 is suggested.

 

 

 

regards,

 Jack

 

36314 "is" ral 1001 beige, just as many revell colours are RAL matches. :) This means at least at some point, wartime 1001 was modern 1001....

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I think I see the light now, the wartime interior colour remained 1001, just post war the name changed from Elfenbein to Beige.  So the 'argument' from the other camp is they want a more white based interior, and are basing this on the premise that the name 'Ivory White' must be followed wherever it appears on modern RAL charts?

 

regards,

Jack

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3 hours ago, JackG said:

I think I see the light now, the wartime interior colour remained 1001, just post war the name changed from Elfenbein to Beige.  So the 'argument' from the other camp is they want a more white based interior, and are basing this on the premise that the name 'Ivory White' must be followed wherever it appears on modern RAL charts?

 

regards,

Jack

Possibly yes.... The facts we know are there, the "intentions" are hard to establish. I've seen (pictures) swatches of the lighter stuff as well... I think you posted them? But in what year are those published?

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I said I'd upload a grid of the two DAK camouflage schemes by the two manufacturers (Mig and Vallejo) once I had all eight paints. Here it is. Not pretty, is it?

 

DAK grid

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Steben said:

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This is how it should look like +/-

If you're correct, then Vallejo are accurate with the early scheme. Vallejo's late scheme is very like the relic linked or posted earlier in this thread, with the pinkish tones in the RAL 8020. Mig Ammo is nowhere close to either scheme. Here's a couple a panzers I airbrushed in the Vallejo yesterday, early on the left, late on the right

 

Early and late DAK

 

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The difference between the patterns I and II is correct on your models. I suspect as with all vallejo paints I've seen there is a serious prelightened character. This makes mig ammo extreme light

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