Paolo G.

thank you Jonathan, i have already find out most of docs and pic on the web, to be precise i' looking for other reference, may be some old artice on magazine or things like that. thank you for your attention and help.

Hi to all, I'm bulding the model of the MRCA p.09, the second italian prototype of tornado. I' lookimg for picture an reference. thank you for your help. Paolo

green looks ok, no one can argument on the right shade of green used in italy in 1943-1945, that was the last problem at that time and very few reference. the color issue is quite common on italian modelling discussion and no one has the true in his poket, and it's only waste of time. It looks ok compared to the others color. this camo is an experimental and not standard one, should be done on the ground and not in factory. the camo is ispired to the camo used until the end of spanish civil war were it was prouved tath the 3 color scheme was uneffective. Germans than said 'nien nien use the rlm........'. (ANR was depending fron luftwaffe). It's impossible to determinate the right colors at that time.. colors on the model looks good, the only notable issue are the decals but we can live for sure, maybe also in italy not all will catch the difference. ciao

nice one. cool bird.

The model is very beatiful, unfufortunatelly decals are totally wrong. the external Ax of the fascio go always up, left wing is ok, right wing is mirror immage and is wrong. the same on the wing below, as mirror. The green on flag on the fuselage (il francobollo) always go first, also in this case left side is ok wright side is flipped, further they looks just oversize. same on the vertical fin. the insigna of 'gigi tre osei' squadron (that means 'luigi, tre uccelli'',S. Tenente Pilota Luigi Caneppele was an an olympic glider pilot, the 3 bird, that are stylized eagle, is a badge for a special level of glider pilot 'level C' ) is wrong. take a look to the centauro on vigna di valle museum for reference. Wethering is a bit exeeding, this plane worn that camo only for 6/7 weeks. in any way the model is very beautiful and effect stunning. Ciao from Italy.

most part of the german plane provided by germany to ANR, indeed the Bf-109 G & K, maintained on the wing the original german markings, while only italian plane, like fiat g-55 or macchi MC205 had the "Fasci" (a couple in a square) on the wing. You can also find a lot of mix of german/italian marking, or some german markings cancelled with some paint, the idea was to represent a second hand german fighters passed to ANR as most part of the BF-109 were. ciao Paolo

Hi to all, this is my ta-183 in the what if color of the ANR, the Aviazione Nazionale Rupubblicana of the Repubblica Sociale Italiana, hope you like.

THK Simon ciao

Sorry I'm no more able to write in French, only read now, any suggest of French forum??? Why is possible to find out photos like that an no photo of a silver and white pipe????? http://www.militarypictures.info/nuclear/F...r_bomb.jpg.html

yes on the net i did not find anything, this is why I'm boring the people of this form with this question, such pod was used as ecm against sa-2 missiles on an abandoned bomber, these are old stuffs, no secret at all today, may be only hard to find.

Hi to all, I'm looking for photos or drawings of an ecm pod CT51 used by the french air force. I need the accurate measures too if is possible. Any photo of a mirage IV A with such equipments is welcome. thank you in advance http://anfas.fr/ge/ct-51.jpg

Hi to all, here my spit. Any comments appreciated ciao from Italy Paolo

Hi, the italian GURU of bf 109 of ANR say that there are no photo of the 109 on discussion. The profile posted is the most realistic, the split should be RLM 75/83/76, standard camouflage. Ciao Paolo

No problem, I'll ask to some people and they will rush to give the info need, I know my chicks....... back asap with the info, in the while here a good reference Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-14/AS della 1^ Squadriglia del I Gruppo CT "1-18" Standard color white Camouflage Ogiva spiral in black. Crest "Ace of Sticks" (asso di bastoni) on the nose. Overpainting in RLM 76 on the fuselage cross and swastika. No. 1 blue and 18 red hyphenated divider red. W.Nr. 780.356 in black at the top of the drift. Standard German crosses, upper wing white above in the black / white. Waiting confirmation ciao Paolo

Hi, generally on ANR BF.109 on the upper wing and lower wing standard german cross was keep without overpainting for identification purposes, only fuselage cross and tail swastika were overpainted. Only italian manufactured planes (like macchi 205 or fiat g.55 or reggiane re.2005) was wearing the standard wing insignia of ANR, (2 fasci on a black square, neutral pattern) Only few bf.109 received the ANR insignia on wings, but they are very few and generally only those of first batch received (mainly g-6 versions). In any way verde oliva scuro is a good choose, remember that in those days in north italy the respect of standard on painting was the last problem and do not make a lot of weathering on it, the standard life of those plane was very short. If you need further info I can ask to my friend in italy. ciao Paolo