Bill1974

After letting the blue layer dry completely I have eventually added the heavy gel and gloss mix and that has been drying a for quite some days and is almost clear, I’ll post a photo when their is something to show 👍🤓

I have realised that the previous layer of gloss and heavy gel is not completely dry, so my new mix of gloss medium and heavy structure gel will have to sit and wait. This could also be a good thing as the mixture will slowly dry out and firm up, hopefully! I'll keep moving it every now and then to keep it from drying out too much.

Right now I’ve been able to get a little more than nill modelling done I’ve added some layers... I've added some white foam to the sides of the U-boat and wake and wave tops. I've then added a mix layer of blue and gloss medium and heavy gel medium and dabbed with a tiny brush to form wavelets. I'm going to now add gloss and heavy gel medium over this and once it dry some more white to foam and wavepeaks. Comments and suggestions welcome. 🤓

They were also outside my price range somewhere around £200 for one and another had been discontinued even Hough the lit is recent, very odd. I downloaded the instructions for the add on kits and may try to scratch build some bits.

Hiya all, I have been maga mega busy redecorating my flat and building new furniture and sorting out all my stuff, and all my kids stuff which is more than my stuff in size and quantity. The bin man is and will be busy.... I'm hoping to get back o to this again soon now I've began putting all my modelling stuff back in place and in reach etc. Touch wood I'll be able to crack on and finish this one and have a crack at HMS snowberry I have been eyeing.... We'll see. I spell checked my blurb above and have decided.... It's extremely likely that I will as the Fletcher and Tribal kits pe is so very detail heavy on the upgrade kits, I haven't even made one ship yet, only one submarine. I feel I'm biting off more than I can chew and need to practice, so HMS snowbury chasing down a Nazi sub it is! It's at a bigger scale and should prepare me nicely for more detail at a smaller scale for the Fletcher and Tribal class dio's. Now, I have seen (after downloading the pics above from scalemates that there are detail up kits for these kits..... Here we go again in adding more complication... 'Geez

No worries, I'm as guilty for not reading all the blurb. Thankyou for your kindness in your reply, everyone makes mistakes and I have found that how someone reacts to that error speaks volumes of that person, and in that regard you have clearly demonstrated that you place on the healthy and respectable side of that 'line'. Onwards and upwards 🤓👍

I've yet to paint the white foam areas as I've been hoping the gel will dry clearer near the bow, which it slowly has done. I had to carefully cut into parts near the bow to get it too dry clearer as it looked like there was white water where their shouldn't be, it's worked eventually and I've been adding thin layer of gloss to cover the cute from the scalpel. I've been decorating my flat, sanding door frames and rollering ceilings and such so haven't had time to do much other than add a thin coat of gloss gel to the scalpelled areas. I'll post a few better photos if I can when it dry. 🤓

Thanks, practice make perfect, so I'm going to do another before I go bigger on either of my destroyers. Not sure of what yet, something relatively small again, something with smoother water and not so much additional peakish waves with more subtle depressions. 🤓

Thankyou that very kind of you to say. 😊

I have added back the bits that withered and added a new layer of gloss to the water, I'm gonna wait for another few days before painting the white foam as I want the gel to have completely and utterly dried before I deal parts of it with paint. Cables, railings and two machine guns and and 88 canon replaced, they don't quiet have the finesse of the originals but they'll do. Comments and suggestions welcome 🤓

I wish you luck in your build, I have the same Zulu kit and am waiting for the upgrade kit and have been wondering about colours and how to weather a ship so I will look on wi5h interest. 🤓👍

It's still drying and I've managed to mangle the sub by putting it in front of my ceramic heater and the rails and such have withered.... Damn. I will just have to carefully remove those tiny handrails and scratch build some, talk about making life difficult!

So, it's dried and I think it needed more coverage to the cotton wool, so I've added more gel to that area and let it start to dry before prodding it again with my manly job brush, which has given it a great watery texture of swirling moving water..... (Proper technical term in abeyance) I have been suprised the way the cotton wool dried inside the gel, it seems to be hardly noticeable? It's not a bad thing as it gives the water a transparent look that has some depth making it look full of bubbles and this is great. When it's all completely dry in at least another day (dependant on weather I add more gel.....) I will use the Vallejo diorama effects foam effect which looks like slightly thicker white paint, we'll see if it was worth the little extra cost compared to simple white. I think it will as it's nicely thick and won't be running all over the place and I'm hoping will only need one 'coat / application' to give the white foam look. Comments and suggestions welcome 🤓

I've added another layer of structure gel mixed with gloss medium and a little turquoise.... And now with some cotton wool drapped and tamped in.... I've also added some bent thin plasticard sheet to form the bow wave..... I'll add some more gloss medium and cotton wool on top of the crashing bow wave when it's dry with some blue painted to the underside as photos. Comments and suggestions welcome 🤓

Hiya, Kind and generous modelling folks, I need some help. With this build I am focusing on practicing the seascape and building the model subs for my main plan build of a tribal over a German sub and a fletcher over Japanese sub. I have made the German sub but not painted it yet and I am purusing the Japanese sub, below.... I haven't been able to find many real photos of this sub in use, I plan on this sub being submerged and being hunted by the Fletcher, so my question is this; What is up / open / on deck? There are various masts and cranes / sea planes / torpedoes. I see many different photos of the i-58 with a plane on deck, others with a hangar and others with torpedo's on deck others with nothing. The kit comes with additional torpedoes and a sea plane but doesn't really say what to do with them? I didn't think (admittedly with my limited knowledge of Japanese navy stuff) that it would be a good idea having a sea plane lashed to your deck as you submerge or try to remain undetected by not making noise as water gurgles past a sea plane???? or are surfaded in rough seas?? Furthermore lashing torpedoes on deck sounds like a really stupid thing to do as there outside of the pressure hull, completely unprotected etc. And open to being set off by machine gun fire from aircraft and adding additional drag once submerged. I won't pretend to know much of Japanese submarines as there are, to my knowledge no Japanese Submarine films but many English / American films. 'Run silent, run deep', 'das boot', 'hunt for red October', 'k19 widow-maker', 'kursk', 'u-571' (which was a story of a British submarine mr hollywood), 'enemy below', 'phantom', 'crimson tide', 'hunter killer', plus many others. NONE of these films show torpedoes / planes / massive masts on deck. Because they're counter intuative, silly and dangerous, surely? So why are they there? What do I model with this sub submerged? I know that the IJN was a little 'out there' and ever so slightly unhinged (kimikazi stuff etc) but damn this all looks and sounds a little too far for my logical brain to accept. I'm feeling like I could just as well model a barbecue or something silly / jack lemon 'blacked up' pretending to be a native in one of his many zanny war films at this rate.....? Please help me make sense of this stuff. 🤪