1/72 modern ground support equipment.

[gingertitan]

I want to make a diorama of a modern day heliport with associated ground support equipment.

Im looking for things like a houchin (diesel powered electric supply), fire extinguishers, step ladders, an aircraft towing tug etc.

Any ideas where i can get some from, or who makes them.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

[TonyT]

I want to make a diorama of a modern day heliport with associated ground support equipment.

Im looking for things like a houchin (diesel powered electric supply), fire extinguishers, step ladders, an aircraft towing tug etc.

Any ideas where i can get some from, or who makes them.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

http://home.clara.net/djparkins/fltpath/fpmaster.htm

[Phil W]

What scale are you working in? If it is 1/72 scale Hasegawa made some kits of ground equipment a few years back. The kit you want is the U.S. Aerospace Ground Equipment set # X72:6 this contains what you require plus a hydraulic test stand, compressor, aircon unit, lighting unit plus four mechanic figures. Although intended as military models all that is neccessary is to paint them in civilian colours.

[Scarlet]

B.W. Models do 60 and 25 KVA Houchins, MK 5 Electrical Servicing Trolley, Towing Arms, Hallam Tractor, Oxy/Nitrogen Trolley and various Land Rovers.

No web site but address is: -

B.W. Models

Hillcrest

Kirk Brae

Cuminestown

Turriff

Aberdeenshire

AB53 5YZ

01888 544481

[email protected]

[Evalman]

Are you modelling Military or Civil? Most of the stuff on Flightpath is Military, but they do Ground Equipment such as these Houchins. I have seen these with RN Merlins;

Both Flightpath and BW Models do this Houchin, the RAF / RN replaced them about 15 years ago but I have seen them at Civil Airfields;

Playing around my new camera tripod and the old Airfix Lynx model;

For vehicles try BW Models, I have just got this Hallam Tractor from them; They were with the RAF from the mid 1980's but many have now been auctioned off.

Also have at look at this for some other vehicles from BW

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44852

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44894

Edited March 4, 2010 by Evalman

[gingertitan]

Thanks for all your help.

Should have been more specific.

Im civie working at mod base with helipad so most stuff is military.

Scale is 1/72.

Evalman those houchins are the exact ones im after, as is the fire bottle on craddle. Where did that come from??

Also any ideas on fuel bowsers???

Thank you all again.

[Evalman]

Here is a link for Flightpath; If you scroll down to the bottom you will find the Houchin.

http://home.clara.net/djparkins/fltpath/fp...postwar_raf.htm

Apart from the Airfix Tactical Refueller, I don't think you will be lucky with a modern bowser.

Cheers,

Pete

Edited March 4, 2010 by Evalman

[gingertitan]

Thanks for your help,

Houchin on order from flightpath, and list from B & W models in the post.

Id like to add a fire truck to the scene. Anyone know anything about military fire trucks???

Used to have a six wheeled landy, now got bigger four wheeled truck, and even more recently a six wheeler.

Any ideas what these are??

[Evalman]

Are they ex MOD?

Have a look through these;

http://album.sixappealwheel.org/Petes-Album

Cheers,

Pete

[Scarlet]

Id like to add a fire truck to the scene. Anyone know anything about military fire trucks???

Wait for your B.W. Models list to arrive.

[Pete T]

Id like to add a fire truck to the scene. Anyone know anything about military fire trucks???

I was a Fire fighter in the RAF 24 years - what do you want to know?

[Evalman]

If your smaller 6 wheel truck was one of these;

It is a TACR2a (Truck Airfield Crash Rescue, Mk 2a) which is available from BW Models;

This is what the RAF and RN currently use, would this be your larger 6 wheel truck? This is a MFV (Major Foam Vehicle); Updated ones have a yellow stripe (MFV2)

Unfortunately you can't get current MOD Crash Vehicles such as the MFV or the smaller RIV (Rapid Intervention Vehicle) as a 1/72 or 1/76 kit. BW models do most of the vehicles used up until about the year 2000.

If you work somewhere like Boscombe Down you will have something totally different.

Edited March 11, 2010 by Evalman

[gingertitan]

Cheers for the replies,

list from B W models has turned up.

The range rover (tacr2) is just what im looking for. On the b/w list under TACR2A part number BW265.

The six wheeler (MFV) looks very similar, but ours has ANGLOCO on the front. Is this a rebadged carmichael??? There is one on the b/w list under "carmichael jetranger 6x6 crash/rescue tender". part number CEV11.

The four wheeler i think is a RIV. Thank you for givig me the official names. Makes it much easier to find info/pictures.

found a site which included this picture.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http...ved=0CBgQ9QEwBg

This is exactly the same as ours.

There are some similar looking veichles on the b/w list. They are all just called "Truck firefighting MK10" There are 4 different models, a basic MK10, a model b, a model c and a model e.

Going from the line drawing in the b/w list, the basic MK10 looks closest, part number BW138.

Am i along the right lines, or am i barking up the wrong tree??

Any more help is greatly recieved.

Edited March 18, 2010 by gingertitan

[Pete T]

Cheers for the replies,

list from B W models has turned up.

The range rover (tacr2) is just what im looking for. On the b/w list under TACR2A part number BW265.

The six wheeler (MFV) looks very similar, but ours has ANGLOCO on the front. Is this a rebadged carmichael??? There is one on the b/w list under "carmichael jetranger 6x6 crash/rescue tender". part number CEV11.

The four wheeler i think is a RIV. Thank you for givig me the official names. Makes it much easier to find info/pictures.

found a site which included this picture.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http...ved=0CBgQ9QEwBg

This is exactly the same as ours.

There are some similar looking veichles on the b/w list. They are all just called "Truck firefighting MK10" There are 4 different models, a basic MK10, a model b, a model c and a model e.

Going from the line drawing in the b/w list, the basic MK10 looks closest, part number BW138.

Am i along the right lines, or am i barking up the wrong tree??

Any more help is greatly recieved.

A Mk10 isn't an RIV. The initial RAF Mk10 deliveries started about 1982/83, the RIV entered RAF service around 1998/99 so unfortunately they aren't the same vehicle.

Have you a photo, or a link to a photo of the Angloco machine? I might be able to identify it if I saw it. Angloco and Carmichael are different companies so I don't think they would be to impressed with re-badging going on.

[gingertitan]

I have some pictures of the angloco fire truck on my pc.

Unfortunatly im on the laptop.

Will try and post some tomorrow.

Thanks for the info.

Edited March 18, 2010 by gingertitan

[gingertitan]

ahh, forgot to say,

Flightpath sent me my houchin and the airfield accesories set i ordered. Excellant service, quality models. VERY HIGHLY RECOMENDED.

B.W. models sent through thier catalouge and price list. Arrived within 4 days of asking via an email. Brilliant service.

Only this fire truck (thanx to everyone who is currently lending me their experience) and i think ive got all the bits to make my scene.

Just need to start building it all now!!!!

[Evalman]

This is the Alvis / Unipower RIV, first delivered around 1999 to replace the TACR2a and Mark 10.

The Mark 10 'story' is a bit more complicated as a number of versions were delivered to the RAF and RN from about 1982. They were replaced by the RIV and MFV by 2000 ish.

This is the basic Mark 10; (BW138);

During the 1990's the Mark 10s had new cabs fitted due to corrosion, these were known as the Mark 10E (BW174). This photo shows exactly the same vehicle as above after conversion;

The Royal Navy used the Mark 10C, these had larger engines and are easily distiguished by the larger rear engine compartment; (BW181):

The Mark 10B used by the RAF also had the larger engine compartment.

If your vehicle is / was a Mark 10, it is possible that it was rebuilt by Angloco after the MOD disposed with it. It would be handy to see a photo.

Cheers,

Pete

[gingertitan]

Sorry but maybe i should have made it a bit clearer.

We have a four wheeled veichle which i now know is the RIV. This has no makers name.

We also have a six wheeled veichle. This is the one with "Angloco" on the front.

Hopefully have some pictures on here later today.

[gingertitan]

Finally here are some pics.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/g...s/DSC046981.jpg

Front of "Angloco" six wheeler.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/g...s/DSC046971.jpg

Side of "Angloco" six wheeler.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/g...s/DSC046791.jpg

Side of four wheeled RIV.

[Evalman]

The 4 wheel vehicle is the same type of RIV currently used by the RAF / RN / AAC, (What is the crest on the cab?) Unfortunately I haven't seen a kit of this yet.

I'm struggling with the 6 wheeler, as you say it looks like a Carmichael Jetranger but it's not identical to the ones I've seen or the BW kit. Perhaps it was rebuilt at some stage.

[gingertitan]

The 4 wheel vehicle is the same type of RIV currently used by the RAF / RN / AAC, (What is the crest on the cab?) Unfortunately I haven't seen a kit of this yet.

I'm struggling with the 6 wheeler, as you say it looks like a Carmichael Jetranger but it's not identical to the ones I've seen or the BW kit. Perhaps it was rebuilt at some stage.

The crest on the cab is the station fire service crest. Think its also on the six wheeler.

[gingertitan]

Just been onto Angloco's website and it says "Vehicles manufactured by Angloco are based upon many different makes and models of commercial and specialist chassis".

Could this mean that the Angloco six wheeler at work, is a modified carmichial jetranger??

Just an idea.

[Pete T]

Just been onto Angloco's website and it says "Vehicles manufactured by Angloco are based upon many different makes and models of commercial and specialist chassis".

Could this mean that the Angloco six wheeler at work, is a modified carmichial jetranger??

Just an idea.

Quite possibly it is an Angloco Mod, but to my knowledge the RAF never used the Jetranger, and I checked that last night with a former colleague.

Has anyone got a photo of the BW model 'Jet ranger'? I just wonder whether they've given this name to a model of the RAF Mk11 which would have been produced around the same time, and which is visually quite similar.

Edited March 20, 2010 by Pete T

[gingertitan]

Using some of the pictures on here, and from speaking to some of the "older" generations at work, most, if not all our equipment is RN or ex RN.

This would explain the houchins with traction, the TACR2 range rover and the RIV.

As for the Angloco six wheeler, know one knows. It was purchased from a private company after our place left the MOD and became private.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works!!!!

[Evalman]

I have the BW Models Jetranger, it is definately a Jetranger, not a Mk 11. According to Barry at BW he is working on the Mark 11 and Mark 12.

For some reason MOD establishments like Boscombe Down purchase their own equipment idependently, for example St Athan have a new Carmichael Cobra (as do Boscombe Down).

gingertitan, where are these vehicles based, it might help.

Edited March 20, 2010 by Evalman