Bazza Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) Hi there. When did the RAF change the Training colour schemes,for Post-War Training Aircraft, such as the Gloster Meteor T Mk 7,& D H Vampire T Mk 11?? I am referring to the change over from Yellow Wing/Fuselage Bands to Red,(or Orange), Day-Glo Stripes,on Nose,Wing Tips,& rear Fuselage. Also,Was the general finish still "High Speed Silver"(Aluminium Paint) overall ?? Was it Gloss,Satin or Matt ?? Do hope you can help?? Thanks. Baz. Edited January 24, 2009 by Bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 It was High speed silver until about 1966, when Light Aircraft grey took over - so you had LACG/dayglo aircraft until the early 70s. IIRC the dayglo scheme came in about 1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 It was High speed silver until about 1966, when Light Aircraft grey took over - so you had LACG/dayglo aircraft until the early 70s.IIRC the dayglo scheme came in about 1960 Cheers Dave, The reason for the query,is(if you managed to read elsewhere),i'm hoping to recreate,in 1/72 the "Chelmsford Meteor",in,rather "better-times". (a T Mk.7 based outside Chelmsford's ATC building). And as far as i can recall,it's been there all my Life !! (i'm now 47) And i remember it way back painted,in HSS/Dayglo strips,which were fading,even then !! Nowadays after 50,or so,years sitting outside,the elements have taken their toll on it,but i THINK the ATC are trying to repaint it(?) Currently it's in a Faded-dull Silver,with Yellow bands,& unfinished,(type-B!!) fuselage Roundels....with crude "stencils". i'll eventually try & take some pics. Cheers Barrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hi. Erm,one other thing,the Dayglo.... Is it RED,or ORANGE....???(i think,Orange,not too sure) "HELP!!" Cheers Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hi. Erm,one other thing,the Dayglo....Is it RED,or ORANGE....???(i think,Orange,not too sure) "HELP!!" Cheers Baz. It started orange (when paint) but went redder when it changed to adhesive tape - if you do a search I asked exactly the same question a while back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I have the RAF paint manual on my pc at home with the schemes on it, will look when i get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 It started orange (when paint) but went redder when it changed to adhesive tape - if you do a search I asked exactly the same question a while back! Hello,Dave. Forgive me,if the subject's been a repeated one,i'm still fairly "new" here.....Have pity on me. ;-) Seriously,i THINK,(considering the age of the "Meat-Box",in question),Orange,Day-Glo,Paint looks a likely bet. i'll keep watching this space.....Cheers Baz. P.S....Could You point me towards the original article,please,Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hello,Dave.Forgive me,if the subject's been a repeated one,i'm still fairly "new" here.....Have pity on me. ;-) Seriously,i THINK,(considering the age of the "Meat-Box",in question),Orange,Day-Glo,Paint looks a likely bet. i'll keep watching this space.....Cheers Baz. P.S....Could You point me towards the original article,please,Dave. No worries, I was just being lazy to avoid searching myself. Didn't mean to indicate you had missed some life changing thread !! http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...c=20358&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 No worries, I was just being lazy to avoid searching myself. Didn't mean to indicate you had missed some life changing thread !! http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...c=20358&hl= Thanks,i've found it....!! You are right the origial D-G Orange DID fade very quickly!! i did remember the Meteor,back in the 70's with a rather faded orange strips. Also i found my old tin of Humbrol Day-Glo orange,(hope it STILL works??) Pity they deleted it !! Cheers Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 I have the RAF paint manual on my pc at home with the schemes on it, will look when i get home. Hello,Tony. That is interesting,BTW,do you have ANY pictures of,say Meteor TRAINERS,(as opposed to Fighters) with the Orange Day-Glo markings,or do you know where to find any info ?? Cheers Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hello,Tony.That is interesting,BTW,do you have ANY pictures of,say Meteor TRAINERS,(as opposed to Fighters) with the Orange Day-Glo markings,or do you know where to find any info ?? Cheers Baz. There are a couple n this thread http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffclark7 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Hello Dave That is a good link there, especially reading through the whole page. It would seem that the "Aircraft Spotter's" cannot agree amongst themselves as to what they are! I remember that at Open Days, at about 0600hrs, they would be three deep and all with their little step ladders to get "A Good Shot", all waiting to get in when we opened the gates to the public. Life never changes! Cheers Jeff Edited January 25, 2009 by jeffclark7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hello,Tony.That is interesting,BTW,do you have ANY pictures of,say Meteor TRAINERS,(as opposed to Fighters) with the Orange Day-Glo markings,or do you know where to find any info ?? Cheers Baz. Ok these three are from the painting and finishing manual...... First is a F8 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Second a T7 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Third is a TT Mk20 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Hope they help and sorry for the delay..... Have a lot on it, standard schemes for a lot of stuff incl markings etc and stuff like Canberras, Whirlwinds etc .. all from that period in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) There are a couple n this threadhttp://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1900 Dave,you are a Darling !! i could,(almost) kiss you !! THANKS !! That second T Mk 7 was what i wanted !! Plus the other similar one ..... The Wing Day-Glo pattern LOOKS similar to that on the D H Vampires,of that time,am i right ?? Cheers a lot,Baz. P.S, those are all really AWESOME pics!! Well done,the Man!! Edited January 27, 2009 by Bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Ok these three are from the painting and finishing manual......First is a F8 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Second a T7 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Third is a TT Mk20 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Hope they help and sorry for the delay..... Have a lot on it, standard schemes for a lot of stuff incl markings etc and stuff like Canberras, Whirlwinds etc .. all from that period in time. Tony,THANKS!! Yes that helps,as i've just asked about the wing tip pattern,on the F.Mk 8,it is identical t' the T.Mk 7 Cheers,Baz. So yep that is a big help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Dave,you are a Darling !! i could,(almost) kiss you !!THANKS !! That second T Mk 7 was what i wanted !! Plus the other similar one ..... The Wing Day-Glo pattern LOOKS similar to that on the D H Vampires,of that time,am i right ?? Cheers a lot,Baz. Dont I even get a peck on the cheek for posting the official drawings for that scheme with dimensions under the F8 one ? Edited January 27, 2009 by TonyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Dont I even get a peck on the cheek for posting the official drawings for that scheme with dimensions under the F8 one ? Ok,if my wife don't mind.... ;-) (i can't yet activate emocions!!) "MWAAH!!" Thanks,enormously !! Baz. P.S have maybe arranged to discuss the real "Meat-box" with the C.O of the ATC.will contact him,soon... (says,"he knows quite a bit,about,'their' Meteor",so fingers crossed...) Edited January 27, 2009 by Bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Ok,if my wife don't mind.... ;-)(i can't yet activate emocions!!) "MWAAH!!" Thanks,enormously !! Baz. P.S have maybe arranged to discuss the real "Meat-box" with the C.O of the ATC.will contact him,soon... (says,"he knows quite a bit,about,'their' Meteor",so fingers crossed...) Hi,with regards to my,extremely helpful,chat with the FORMER C.O,of Chelmsford,Sqn Ldr A R Tyrell,(i thank him enormously,for his help,& time.) He showed me a picture of WH132,when it first arrived at Chelmsford ATC,in July 1966*(surely as pictures go,that's the "Holy Grail"....!!) Beautiful information. The Meteor in question was finished,originally,in the Official,(1959) RAF trainer scheme,of H.S.Silver, with Orange Day-Glo Nose,Rear Fuselage/Tail Fin,and the Wing-Tip,& Leading edges. It was,individually,coded, "J".(i had a feeling,insofar,that WAS the case.) So there you go..... Thanks to everyone who's helped me,(that's YOU guys !!),so far. All the Official Drawings and Photo's are massively helpful,to my project.(now,onto building the Xtrakit T.Mk7) Of course,any more info will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks. Baz. *Didn't "something else" happen at that time,(July '66) ?? Big Lol !! Edited January 29, 2009 by Bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Ok these three are from the painting and finishing manual......First is a F8 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Second a T7 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Third is a TT Mk20 http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core..._serialNumber=1 Hope they help and sorry for the delay..... Have a lot on it, standard schemes for a lot of stuff incl markings etc and stuff like Canberras, Whirlwinds etc .. all from that period in time. As revealed,later...The T.Mk 7 painting scheme is the one,i will be doing,(it's the SAME one)"Yippee"!! Cheers !! Baz. P.S...Any of you going to MK,on Sunday?? i'll be there. Edited January 29, 2009 by Bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dave,you are a Darling !! i could,(almost) kiss you !!THANKS !! That second T Mk 7 was what i wanted !! Plus the other similar one ..... The Wing Day-Glo pattern LOOKS similar to that on the D H Vampires,of that time,am i right ?? Cheers a lot,Baz. P.S, those are all really AWESOME pics!! Well done,the Man!! Steady on old chap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Steady on old chap! That's ok i've had a lie-down now...Lol! Now,for the model building...... Cheers Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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