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Hello chaps,
If Tamiya represents very very simply the very complex front area under the dashboard (that is, to be true, just slightly visible, hidden by the upper cowl), no compromise at all for Top Studio:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
Been very busy these days, but I though could go on and my handlebars are now done:
N.B: in order to determine precisely how exactly the part to scratchbuild was, I used several other screen captures with varying view angles, that I won't reproduce here not to burden excessively the thread. For the same reasons, I won't detail all the procedure using A.A, Evergreen and other materials to get something quite convincing, unless one of you is asking.
Edit a day later (last corrections and improvements):
Cheers, O
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8 hours ago, Jochen Barett said:
Tamiya and TS are soooooo careless. Manufacturers' goofs like this brake handle slow down your easy out of the box starter kit's weekend assembly so much. 😇
Everyone will have understood that Jochen is funnily and kindly ironical, as well about Tamiya and Top Studio (definitely 2 very good manufacturers), as well about me (it is true that I first thought this build would be an out of the box one and I shared recklessly this thought last 28/12 in the Mustang thread).
Jochen, who seems to know me much better than I do myself, had guessed right away I couldn't help but make a mountain of it...
I apologize so again for my very slow build due to my excessive level of demand, that I have to assume.
But precisely, this example of dug brake handles (as other ones) shows that, even using great brands such Tamiya and TS, the demanding modeler must remain critical and check on docs that parts are faithful to the original.
Definitely, I might have missed some other details, but each time, my goal is to get one of the most faithful existing replicas.
Cheers, TMO
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Hello my friends,
As I began to work on the handlebars, I noticed something:
The M5 part is ever replaced. I used a little portion of 1,5 mm tin wire whose end was rounded. It will be more difficult to replace the S8 part. This shows that it is very easy to lose some of the many tiny parts of the TS set. So take care!
Cheers, O
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3 hours ago, mustang1989 said:
Looks like you've had your problems with this but I'm looking forward to the recovery efforts friend.
Many problems with this build, indeed, my friend, but I promise you I will not abandon it!
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
Again a very challenging step to get convincing hoses both sides of the front fork:
This step over, I should probably go on with the handlebars and dashboard...
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
Furthermore, I noticed on my docs that applying the same color on the both seat cushions was an error:
Cheers, O
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Hello chaps,
The challenging step of front fork (big) improvement using the Top Studio detail set is nearly over:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
I want to share with you the YouTube video that is the best reference for my build, even if some other ones are useful too:
A big thank you to the author, ODDEYE109!
I just began the work on the front fork. I first applied a coat of X-11 enamel thinned with X-20 on the Tamiya parts B21 and 22. Then the 2 arms of the fork were assembled:
The video mentioned above allowed to bring useful precisions for a faithful replica of this area:
N.B: I thought I could use a stretched cotton swab to get the clear soft tube, but cotton swab sticks are nowadays made of cardboard instead of plastic tube, for ecologic reasons. I will try to find (Aliexpress?) such 0,6 mm clear soft tubes.
Any suggestion welcome on this point...
Edit a few hours later: I have ordered on Aliexpress silicone soft clear hoses in 0,5 and 1 mm diameter (the smallest sizes I found). But the delivery date being very far, and as I couldn’t wait so long, I thought to another option, looking closely in my bench. And I found the solution (certainly better than the ordered silicone hoses):
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
My left side, with many improvements brought mainly thanks to Top Studio, is now over:
I have to add some missing elements on the right side now, before going on with further challenges, probably first with the front fork and wheel assembly...
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
A new update regarding the job on this left side:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
Well, adding the Top Studio elements with their wires on the left side is, how gamblor916 would say, "when the fun starts"!
Little by little, though, with a lot of patience:
This step of the page 6 in the TS instructions is yet far from being OK. Oxygen sensors, clamps, loops in which the wires must pass etc. are still to add.
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
A new update, while I assembled the right exhaust and added some TS and Tamiya parts both sides:
Left side, this metal arm (much simply represented by Tamiya) is to assemble:
The Top Studio Super Detail-Up set allows to bring many improvements to the Tamiya kit, even for some elements that will be totally invisible such the section 8 (that will be hidden by the attaching undercowl). The section 5 is the one to follow if you want to represent accurately the above metal arm:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
This chain will definitely have caused me some headaches, but well, it is now in place.
All is not perfect (with the experience gained, I would certainly achieve a better result if I had to do it again), but I though consider this result acceptable, the defects being probably scarcely noticeable when the build is over, with many elements yet to come.
Cheers, O
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Hello chaps,
The challenge now is to close the chain while getting a good tension of the latter...
Cheers, O
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21 hours ago, gamblor916 said:
You should check it against the kit chain.
Good suggestion, gamblor916:
19 hours ago, Urshimato said:It looks to me like the swing arm is not mounted correctly. I say this because I cannot see the top of the shock absorber where it should fit to the main frame
I would have preferred you to be right, Urshimato, but imho, the swing arm is mounted correctly and can't go any further:
Last check, that I should probably have done before, instead of trusting in the TS instructions:
If I refer to this measure, the TS chain would be so 17 mm too short, my estimation being still below reality...
I decided to contact Top Studio about this problem. Here is my e-mail content:
Hello,
I bought the Top Studio 1:12 Chain set for Tamiya TD23177.
I built the chain to the suggested lenght, 145 mm, but it appears that this lenght is too short, it should in fact be about 162 mm (lenght of the Tamiya chain, by the way).
I hope I will have enough links and nipples to get the right lenght.
I suggest you to bring the necessary correction to your instructions, to avoid other modelers to meet the same problems than me.
Indeed, it is only chain in place that I found that.
You can see in my Britmodeller thread what I mean:Thank you
Cheers, O
Edit a bit later: I decided not to wait any longer to unstick the rear fender. So, I could measure the missing lenght, that is finally between 14,5 mm and 15 mm. I pulled out the assembly tool (that begins to be a bit worn out), the parts and the instructions of the chain set...
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Hello my friends,
Then comes the rear wheel attaching: Tamiya provides long screws that should come into the rear and front axis holes...
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
The engine is now assembled on the frame, using the screws provided by Tamiya (a good idea to provide also a little magnetic screwdriver):
The screws are not tightly tightened for now as I will probably have to unscrew them.
Furthermore, I said above following as well the Tamiya and Top Studio instructions required a maximum care.
But I also have to take in consideration the Blue Stuff instructions, since I decided to represent the Pedrosa bike.
Yet when I applied successively the Surface Primer and the Titanium White on the upper cowl, I forgot that, on Dani's bike, the latter has a bit different shape. I have to add resin parts provided in the BS set:
N.B: those of you who have kindly followed me in the Mustang thread (I will come-back to this other build as soon as this one will be over, I promise!) know that I had many problems with Surfacer products that damaged the paint by places. It is imho because these fillers were applied on an acrylic paint.
If so, as I use only Gravity paints and primers for the Honda, I think I won't meet the same problem here.
Cheers, O
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On 19/04/2022 at 14:06, gamblor916 said:
I know that Hobby Design and S27 have front and back radiator faces for their RC213V sets.
Thanks gamblor916 for this info. However, I think it won't be necessary to buy another set (I ever bought quite a lot...).
Indeed, by using the dry brush technique, I could get a result that I consider really acceptable for something that will be just slightly visible through the side cowls gaps:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
Following the TS instructions, I began to work on the radiator:
* MMFA = Microscale Micro Metal Foil Adhesive, a good white glue.Even if you don't use the TS detail set with the PE grille, you must not apply a Silver color on the grille. If so, a coat of Flat Black and then a dry brush with Silver will allow to get a much more convincing radiator grille.
Now I have to paint and assemble the other (the rear) side of the radiator. One more time, the Tamiya's instructions suggest to paint it TS-30, but it is imho not the best way to represent it nicely and faithfully. Let's take a look at this side on the real bike:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
A new little update tonight:
As I had to paint carbon the part on the rear portion of the frame, I took advantage to apply it also on other pieces (TS H4, H13 and also the meter).
I recall indeed, as I said in a previous post, that I had realized lately TS provided a little better one than Tamiya. As I had no more Tamiya dial decal, I used the custom decal I had printed (see above). This custom decal was not bad at all, but however, I had to improve it by applying a Middle Grey. I also improved other aspects such the pink color of the right panel, and the buttons and indicator lights, for which the Vallejo Silver was preferred to the GSW Chrome:
Happy Easter to all 🍫🥚
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
I focus now on the right rear part of the frame:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
I began the next step with the oxygen sensors.
But before, I decided to place all the metal and numerous resin parts on a dsa sheet, in order to avoid errors and ease the following steps. The sprues were placed approximately as on the TS instructions:
N.B: the above example of the dial (I will of course do another one from the resin TS part) shows that it is necessary to check carefully all Tamiya parts that are to (advantageously) replace by TS ones, and to precise it in the Tamiya instructions. Indeed, if the latter precise when Tamiya separately detailing parts can be used (rear damper, front fork), it is of course not the case when they come from another brand...
Now, let's focus on the oxygen sensors:
As I wanted to have an idea of the wire lenght and of the connectors R13 color, I found this doc:
I also found this other doc, that shows from below the oxygen sensors where they are attached to the exhaust:
Cheers, O
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Hello my friends,
the carbon decals finally applied on the swing arm, I could go on and, following the TS instructions, improve the rear area both sides:
My swing arm is now ready.
I am so going to focus as soon as possible on improvements (thanks to the TS set) regarding the frame and exhausts (springs, oxygen sensors etc.)
Cheers, O
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Honda RC213 V '14 REPSOL Tamiya 1/12
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Dear Steve,
Thanks a lot for your (too) humble and kind comment and for spending time to explain very clearly what you mean thanks to these juxtaposed comparison pics.
But if I agree to say that the 2 portions of my thin metal wire should be tighter, the close-up below (and other ones) confirms that Top Studio is right suggesting to use the very thin wire provided (0,3 mm) and to do 2 turns and finish with a twist (see the handle instructions in the post of last May 26 same page):
I will try to tight a bit more the portions of wire on my handles but honestly, at naked eye, the narrow gap between them is not visible or really slightly:
I appreciate your attention to detail that shows you follow impliedly my thread.
Cheers, O