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Browsing through the kindle store and this caught my eye and got me thinking. So the proposal would be for models of subjects that gained a bad reputation or were actually more dangerous to their operators than their enemies. So I’ll start the list of possibles. 2023s bunfight is pretty full so if this goes through I’d propose we hang on to it for 2024. 1. Royal aircraft BE2 family, nicknamed the Quirk, an inherently stable design that was a sitting duck in combat. 2. F104 star fighter nicknamed the missile with a man, very fast but difficult to fly and easy to crash. 3. Heinkel 177 Grief nicknamed the flying coffin like the Avro manchesters twinned Buzzard engines the Heinkel suffered from engine fires and mechanical reliability and has difficulty staying in the air. 4. Albatross DV the successor to the DIII the lower wing had a tendency to come off during dives and tight manoeuvres, more or less fixed on the DVa by adding a small reinforcing strut. 5. Fokker EV the precursor to the DVIII the type had major issues with the parasol wing failing the issue was fixed but the plane was renamed the DVIII. 6. M4 Sherman nicknamed the Tommy cooker by the Germans and the Ronson by the British; after the ronson lighters marketing line ‘lights up first time every time’. Wet ammunition storage was added to the later models to alleviate the problem. Any non wet storage mark. 7. The Kursk, sank with all hands. 8. Me 163 used hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide fuels that were volatile and or explosive and as a result killed more Germans in fuel related accidents than enemy flight crew. 9. Bachem Ba349 Natter a seriously dangerous vertically launched rocket intercepter managed to kill its pilot on its first and only manned flight. 10. Sopwith Camel the most successful fighter of all time in the right hands, due to the gyroscopic effect of the radial engine a dangerous machine in the wrong ones, many a trainee pilot was lost to the machine. 11. Bolton & Paul Defiant, designed to be a bomber destroyer a fundamentally flawed concept that was so badly mauled in the Battle of Britain it was withdrawn from frontline service. It did find a niche later in the war as a night fighter. 12. Avro Manchester. As part of the spec to be a twin used the RR Buzzard engine which had issues causing it to either just not start or conversely unexpectedly go up in flames. it was developed into the Avro Lancaster. 13. Me328 designed as a cheap Argus powered intercepter/bomber then developed as a suicide bomber, poor handling delayed the production of the aircraft. As the application was primarily to be anti shipping D-day rendered the concept obsolete. 14. Fieseler 105 Richenberg the piloted V1 developed as a stopgap while the issues with Me328 were to be solved. Killed quite a few test pilots but was never used operationally. As I read my book and think of other aviation Turkeys I’ll add to the list. 1. @Marklo 2. @stever219 3. @Mjwomack 4. @helios16v 5. @IanC 6. @vppelt68 7. @theplasticsurgeon 8. @Corsairfoxfouruncle 9. @ArnoldAmbrose 10. @VMA131Marine 11. @Bandsaw Steve 12. @Rob G 13. @Jb65rams 14. @CliffB 15. @Jinxman 16. @drdjp11 17. @bigfoot 18. @Rafwaffe 19. @Colin W 20. @DaddyO 21. @JOCKNEY 22. @Pin 23. @Adam Poultney 24. @DaveyGair 25. @Bertie McBoatface 26. @2996 Victor 27. @zebra 28. @Brad 29. @Angus Tura 30. @Redstaff 31. @Luke1199 32. @Mjwomack 33. @AdrianMF