Dave Fleming Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 The 'crossmarking' between 3 Sqn GR7s and the SHARs was fairly short lived and little publicised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeEaton Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I miss them Any one know of any that are still flying or will be flyable? PLEASE don't tell me the FA.2's are all being scrapped? Perhaps exported to the Indian Navy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Indians didn't want them, so they will all be sold off for scrap/museums/ebay etc One is being restored to flying condition in the US by an ex-USMC test pilot, I have the link to their website somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Some bloke here in the UK bought a SHAR for £10K last month.Has it in his back yard! (bet his missus is pleased with that parked on her rockerey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 It was not that the indians did not want them. The SHAR's were AIM-120B capable and the US does not want certain comtries to have this so we would have had to have US permision to sell them, I think this was part of the AIM-120 deal. One SHAR was sold to a guy in the US in flying condition (an ex USMC pilot), this was a trials & Testing airframe and not fitted for AIM-120 and thus OK. Incidently learned th other day all the RAF aircraft use AIM-120C and they are having to do some sort of upgrade or is it down grade so they can use the ex RN missiles. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 It was not that the indians did not want them.The SHAR's were AIM-120B capable and the US does not want certain comtries to have this so we would have had to have US permision to sell them, I think this was part of the AIM-120 deal. I should have been more clear. The AIM-120 capability would have been stripped out them, as would have Blue Vixen - they would have been supplied to the Indians as training airframes. The Indians weren't interested in that. http://www.india-defence.com/reports/2605 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Indians didn't want them, so they will all be sold off for scrap/museums/ebay etcOne is being restored to flying condition in the US by an ex-USMC test pilot, I have the link to their website somewhere I think this is the one Dave: Linky thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Dave, any idea of the codes/serials of those crossover SHARs and HAR? I do wish the RAF would go back to offering a choice of low or hi-res images, because those ones are so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 6, 2007 Author Share Posted May 6, 2007 The GR7s are easy because they tail numbers are unique (14A is ZD347) - I'll need to dig out the other pics to check the SHARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvoWill Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Incidently learned th other day all the RAF aircraft use AIM-120C and they are having to do some sort of upgrade or is it down grade so they can use the ex RN missiles.Julien All the RAF aircraft flying operations will probably be using the AIM-120C4 or 5 variant, but there are plenty of stocks remaining of AIM-120B. The C model is quite a bit better in combat scenarios, so they'd obviously want to use that on real ops, but what then for all the Bs? Well some will probably be used as practice firings (for practice purposes theres no real difference in how you'd employ the missiles, so for training the B's will do the trick) but the others are being upgraded by raytheon as the AIM-120B+, basically gives the B model some of the enhancements made to the C models seeker head and computer but retains the original full span fins and rocket motor of the AIM-120B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 All the RAF aircraft flying operations will probably be using the AIM-120C4 or 5 variant, but there are plenty of stocks remaining of AIM-120B. The C model is quite a bit better in combat scenarios, so they'd obviously want to use that on real ops, but what then for all the Bs? Well some will probably be used as practice firings (for practice purposes theres no real difference in how you'd employ the missiles, so for training the B's will do the trick) but the others are being upgraded by raytheon as the AIM-120B+, basically gives the B model some of the enhancements made to the C models seeker head and computer but retains the original full span fins and rocket motor of the AIM-120B. Another great MOD procurement issue, get load of missiles for airraft, take that aircraft out of service and then we have to test fire or upgreade the missiles to give a lesser combat performance! If the MOD was a company it would have closed years ago! Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 If the MOD was a company it would have closed years ago! They're working on it... give it time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Old joke "How does the MoD make millions? By starting out with billions..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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