Shaun Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Are there any real modelling difference between the US and UK Phantom seats? I presume its just the type of Harness, but in 1/48th would it be that easy to notice. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Are there any real modelling difference between the US and UK Phantom seats?I presume its just the type of Harness, but in 1/48th would it be that easy to notice. Shaun. They were all MB mk7's weren't they? I wouldn't think there would be any structural differences, maybe the colour of the packs and harnesses might vary if user specific, as always check your references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pte1643 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) As Duncan says, there are a couple of minor variations depending on which operator (country). One thing to note is the colour of the harness straps differs between users. Here's a link (you may already know it) that shows an RAF Mk.7a seat (with links to varying views), and also links to comparable seats for USAF, USN and Luftwaffe variants. http://www.ejectionsite.com/frame_sg.htm For the seats in my recently completed kit, I used my own reference photo's from the Hendon Phantom for colours etc. Edited October 10, 2011 by pte1643 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghb180658 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The other thing to consider is the period you a modelling if it is an RAF Phantom. We changed from the "torso harness" which is the US system to the typical UK "simplified combined harness" in 1980 which is the way the UK seats are now shown. So if you are modelling something pre 1980 the seat straps would look like the US ones. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Unless its an F-4J(UK) in that case I think they used USN equipment nearly up until the time they were scrapped. Pretty sure they did not have standard UK seats for very long. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghb180658 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Unless its an F-4J(UK) in that case I think they used USN equipment nearly up until the time they were scrapped. Pretty sure they did not have standard UK seats for very long. Julien Good point, I can't remember how long they kept the USN kit but they did change as the small numbers were hard to support and that USN flying equipment - helmets, life preservers, dinghies etc weren't to the same standard as UK kit although many of the guys liked it. There was also much banter about 74 Sqn chaps "posing" in their USN kit... Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEZ Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Early deliveries of both FGR.2 (F-4M) and FG.1 (F-4K) had Martin Baker Mk.5 seats. regards Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 The seats are for my F-4J (UK) build. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 What wonderful reference, took myself tot he EJ seat site and found exactly what I wanted in less than five minutes. Marvelous. Colin on the Africa Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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