Pappy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 G'day people, I have been looking for a quick build to get myself out of a modelling rut, and I am hoping that this will be remedy. This is the 1/72 Italeri F-5B which I plan to build as a Hellenic Air Force trainer. I bought a couple of Eduard single seat F-5 PE sets to dress up the bland cockpits (unfortunately Eduard do not make a dedicated F-5B set) so that will be interesting. The side console overlays were added and a map case was added on the right side made from some scrap resin offcuts. The cockpit sidewalls were also dressed up with some scrap plastic card. I was not going for 100% accuracy, just and indication that there is something in there, I added a representation of the seat cushion using cigarette paper which has an embossed pattern already on it and the PE belts were added to the seats as well. Finally, the front PE instrument panel was modified as it would not fit as is. Some judicious cutting and filing was needed but it was eventually wrestled into submission! The lot was then given a blast of Dark Gull Grey (FS 36231) and the details picked out. Thanks for looking, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 nice work mate! where are the IP etched from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitris Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Very promising my friend! Waiting for more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 A great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 nice work mate!where are the IP etched from? G'day people, Thanks very much. Periklis, the PE is actually 2 x sets of Eduard F-5E (SS168), so it is not 100% correct, but it will do for 1/72. As I said in the first post, the instrument panel would not fit the front cockpit without modification, so I modified it by cutting out the top left and right corners. cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 G'day people, I have made a little more progress today. The rear fuselage halves were joined whilst the cockpit was in the process of being painted. Today I cleaned up the seam. Next the cockpit tub and instrument panels were offered up to the forward fuselage and checked for fit and alignment. The seats are only dry fitted at this stage, they will be installed once all the major painting has been completed. When I was happy with the fit, the two forward fuselage halves were cemented together. The two fuselage assemblies were checked for fit and alignment. Once satisfied, the two assemblies could be cemented together. cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 great work mate! i forgot to mention to you that the Greek F-5s didnt have a radar screen......... although alot of people will not notice it! what colors will you paint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moofles Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Great work so far, looking forward to the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Great work Pappy, I always admire the neatness of your builds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 great work mate!i forgot to mention to you that the Greek F-5s didnt have a radar screen......... although alot of people will not notice it! what colors will you paint it? Nor originally did any other F-5A or F-5B. It was only the F-5E that introduced a radar and its related screen. However it seems to me that Pappy knows he's not beeing 100% accurate and the F-5E panels really add a nice touch to the final result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Nor originally did any other F-5A or F-5B. It was only the F-5E that introduced a radar and its related screen.However it seems to me that Pappy knows he's not beeing 100% accurate and the F-5E panels really add a nice touch to the final result. G'day people, Thanks very much everyone for the comments, and thank you Periklis and Giorgio for pointing out the error. I was aware that the instrument panels were incorrect for the F-5A/B as this aircraft does not have a radar, but others may not be so it is good that this was pointed out for those that did not know. Eduard do not make a PE set for the F-5B, so I used two F-5E (which does have a radar) sets. I have a cunning plan to disguise the error, if it works you will see it in the next installment. I am undecided on the final scheme. I am thinking it will either be the SEA or the ghost scheme. Peri, would a ghost scheme require the later style ejection seats? Thanks for keeping me honest cheers, Edited August 29, 2011 by Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Nice to see you back in the saddle. Another great build on the way no doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 Nice to see you back in the saddle. Another great build on the way no doubt! G'day Ray, Thanks mate. I am trying to ease back in. I was overseas for a while, I started to feel some withdrawal symptoms after about a month, so I had to tough out the last couple of weeks, luckily Santorini had lots of, ahem 'destractions' to keep me occupied! cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 this might help you my friend (sorry but it is in Greek) http://www.modelclub.gr/forums/index.php/t...light,f-5a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) The seats you have are the wrong ones you must use MB Mk10 Edited August 30, 2011 by periklis_sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 G'day Periklis, Thanks for the link, heaps of great reference pics and information in there, I will have to spend a couple of days reading through it. It looks like there were heaps of different combinations of seat, load and camouflage. I like the idea of Greek and Jordanian markings on the same jet at once! Here are some pics of an HAF F-5A I took whilst I was in Lesvos a couple of weeks ago. I think (the brain cells were liberally marinated with Ouzo at the time!) it was outside the Monastery of the 'Taxiarchis Gabriel' near Matamandos. Well, I have attempted to disguise the instrument panel radar screens bay applying a HSI decal using some Mike Grant decals. It won't fool anyone who knows the jet, but it looks convincing enough in 1/72 I think. Plus some shots of the sidewalls The forward fuselage seam still needs some work. The forward/aft joint will need a touch of filler and disappointingly, there a a couple of small sink marks that need to be dealt with as well. A quick dry fit with the remaining major assemblies indicates that there should be no major fit issues from this point on. I have also given the exhaust an undercoat of matt back. cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 looking good mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 you must use MB Mk10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 you must use MB Mk10 Periklis, can I ask when the mk.10 was introduced ? I built a mirage grey over silver F-5A a while ago and used the seat from the box, but if the Mk.10 was used on these I can still swap seat as I didn't glue the canopy. Mine represents a plane operating in 1985-6. Also, can I ask if the silver one posted by Pappy carried that colour scheme while in service ? Or was it decorated like that only after retirement ? It would make for a good subject ! Thanks ! Pappy, your model is comoing along really nicely ! I must keep in mind your modifications as I'm planning an Italeri F-5B myself in the future (with turkish markings though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moofles Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 coming along very nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 That's coming along nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periklis_sale Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Periklis, can I ask when the mk.10 was introduced ? I built a mirage grey over silver F-5A a while ago and used the seat from the box, but if the Mk.10 was used on these I can still swap seat as I didn't glue the canopy. Mine represents a plane operating in 1985-6.Also, can I ask if the silver one posted by Pappy carried that colour scheme while in service ? Or was it decorated like that only after retirement ? It would make for a good subject ! Thanks ! Pappy, your model is comoing along really nicely ! I must keep in mind your modifications as I'm planning an Italeri F-5B myself in the future (with turkish markings though) Giorgio after 85-86 the f-5 had the MB seats The one that pappy posted was only for decoration purposes! not a real flying cammo hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Looking very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 you must use MB Mk10 Thanks for the nice commets everyone, and special thanks to Periklis for tip on the seats. MB 10's are used ina few types so it should be easy enough to finda pair of resin replacement seats. It looks like the fron seat will need a pair of canopy breakers as well. Periklis, can I ask when the mk.10 was introduced ? I built a mirage grey over silver F-5A a while ago and used the seat from the box, but if the Mk.10 was used on these I can still swap seat as I didn't glue the canopy. Mine represents a plane operating in 1985-6.Also, can I ask if the silver one posted by Pappy carried that colour scheme while in service ? Or was it decorated like that only after retirement ? It would make for a good subject ! Thanks ! Pappy, your model is comoing along really nicely ! I must keep in mind your modifications as I'm planning an Italeri F-5B myself in the future (with turkish markings though) Thanks Giorgio, but please bear in mind that I am not going for 100% accuracy, although I did refer to pics when adding the details, so it is more 'busy' than accurate. Which Turkish scheme are you going to use? The Hill Grey scheme looks very neat, cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks for the info Periklis, guess that as my model is of a plane right in those years of changeover, I'll leave the original seat... Pappy, I'll be doing 5-408, that I believe was the only Turkish F-5B wearing an aggressor camouflage (blues and greys). It's represented in one of Carpena's sheet for the F-5. A picture is here: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/rh/articles.php?id=572 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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