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all this talk of vulcans has got me thinking


Mark M

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guys ive read (very quickly as i was being nosey in tescos) this latest edition of Flypast and i noted the plans for a desert underneath on a vulcan, now was this real? id so are there pictures of it? plans?

did the vulcans have any mods for the desert?

i fell some wiffery comming on

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but any desert mods?

Shouldn't have thought so. Like the Buccaneer, the new paint was applied solely because a few aircraft were sent over to participate in Red Flag. They were standard aircraft.

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Nice images. especially the Neptune P2V5. My dad was on the P2V5's with 36sqn at Topcliffe during the 50's. Love that vulcan scheme to....very different.

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Shouldn't have thought so. Like the Buccaneer, the new paint was applied solely because a few aircraft were sent over to participate in Red Flag. They were standard aircraft.

I believe that the Buccaneers flew so low that the desert paint was sandblasted off the belly.

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ok ill let you in to my plans

my lad and i have a spare vulcan each, jamie wants to make a wif airliner vulcan, and i was thinking an end of world Holocaust desert vulcan, armed with blue steel and side winders

i really like the look of the 2 tone desert camo

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I dont see the point of painting something the size of a vulcan two shades of brown on the underneath.....

on the top yes.

would make an interesting model tho', so would an all-over desert camo vulcan....

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I dont see the point of painting something the size of a vulcan two shades of brown on the underneath.....

on the top yes.

You obviously never saw the angles of bank they pulled down in the weeds then....!!

K

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I dont see the point of painting something the size of a vulcan two shades of brown on the underneath.....

on the top yes.

would make an interesting model tho', so would an all-over desert camo vulcan....

To avoid the 'San Carlos Skyhawk' effect when banking at low level. Big white triangle suddenly appears!

The colours interest me - it's been said it was RAF stock paint, left over from the old Transport scheme (which would make it Light Stone and Dark Earth) but I don't see either in that photo!

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Can I ask why the desert camo is applied to the underside and not the top...

The original scheme was LACG underneath, as Dave said earlier this "blinked" like a beacon when banking so they decided to paint the aircraft in situ. I suspect those were the only colours they had available? Note that the Vulcans with full wrap around were painted in Dark Green and DARK Sea Grey, the upper surfaces on this were Dark Green amd MEDIUM Sea Grey - so at that stage it would have been unlikely that they's have wrap around in DG and MSG (unlike XH558 now!)....

...probably!

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To avoid the 'San Carlos Skyhawk' effect when banking at low level. Big white triangle suddenly appears!

The colours interest me - it's been said it was RAF stock paint, left over from the old Transport scheme (which would make it Light Stone and Dark Earth) but I don't see either in that photo!

ok......er......I know where san carlos is and the significance and where the skyhawk comes in to this in that respect....

but whats the san carlos skyhawk effect exactly?

slight change of subject (sorry) but since its been mentioned...

the light stone and dark earth scheme was worn by the hercules back in the 1970's ?

any other aircraft type wear it?

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slight change of subject (sorry) but since its been mentioned...

the light stone and dark earth scheme was worn by the hercules back in the 1970's ?

any other aircraft type wear it?

Andover, Beverley, Argosy, Twin Pioneer....off the top of my head. May well have been others. I have to admit though I always thought it was mid stone...

Keef

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Looking at the very issue of Flypast in front of me now, it says the scheme was

"...dark earth and middle stone. This paint was 'liberated' from old stocks supplied to RAF's middle East fleet of Blackburn Beverleys and Amstrong Whitworth Argosies."

applied to XM607 of 44 Squadron.

It also says that the Vulcans were easy to spot from above during bright sunlight, as they cast a distinctive shadow on the ground. Doesn't suprise me, with 3964 sq.ft of wing!!

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