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... dash it all old chap get your self back to the chuffing work bench...eh?

Wilco skipper.

Just getting round to decalling up the Gannett and I now have a Tiffie, a Sea Fury and a Whirlybomber all vieing for my attention. There's also a FW189 in construction hell - not going as well as I'd have hoped, so it's been relegated to storage alongside the Brisfit. I've lost interest in WiPs for the time being but I'll post a few RFI's anon.

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Ofcourse ...the pain in the ar## is that I have to repeat this process for the other side of the frame work tomorrow! :(

So untill then.......

Cheers

Sorry to be a pain, but dont forget the plan will not show the true lenghts of the fuselage longerons from the rear of the cockpit. This is because the fuselage tapers, both in side view and top view. What this will mean is that if this is not taken into account, the overall length of the fuselage will be shorter than it should be when you join the fuselage frames up at the rear........er, I dont think I have explained that well. sorry

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Sorry to be a pain, but dont forget the plan will not show the true lenghts of the fuselage longerons from the rear of the cockpit. This is because the fuselage tapers, both in side view and top view. What this will mean is that if this is not taken into account, the overall length of the fuselage will be shorter than it should be when you join the fuselage frames up at the rear........er, I dont think I have explained that well. sorry

I understand what you mean, so it must have been explained well.

BB

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Yeh - I understood. If the pattern is designed to be used like this, then perhaps the foreshortening thang is built in to the plan? Then again, using that prop as an example, accuracy may not be a prime goal. It also ought to be an issue with the wheel struts which are splayed out in reality (or at least on my Roden 1/48 SE5a), so copying the plan might result in undersized struts.

I'm sure that Fozzy has it all under control...

Earth to Fozzy? Come in Fozzy.

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Hi chaps

I havn't been around for the last 24 hours or so because the :poo: has hit the fan!!! Came back from my local bar on Saturday night only to find my Computer has got the XP security Centre 2012 virus....can't access the internet or do any thing!!Attempting to get it fixed tomorrow!! :angry: I am at the moment using my Wifes PC!

Not only have I had computer problems but I also have had problems with the S.E.5.a!!!.....here is a photo.............

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.....yes I'm afraid I had to destroy all the work I have done so far and start again :(

This is because I am not happy with the frame work I made...firstly it was not strong enough and secondly it started to warp and thirdly it looked crap !!!..................and so I have decided on a different approach.I started again this afternoon and it looks a lot better and stronger.Its my own fault really as I was trying to go too fast!!! ...I havn't any photo's yet because of my problem with the computer but as soon as the PC is up and running then I will continue with the posts!!!

I guess..... :shithappens:

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Wilco skipper.

Just getting round to decalling up the Gannett and I now have a Tiffie, a Sea Fury and a Whirlybomber all vieing for my attention. There's also a FW189 in construction hell - not going as well as I'd have hoped, so it's been relegated to storage alongside the Brisfit. I've lost interest in WiPs for the time being but I'll post a few RFI's anon.

Good to hear matey...I shall look forward to the viewing!!...well Computer permiting that is !!

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andy wood Posted Jun 25 2011, 03:54 PM

Sorry to be a pain, but dont forget the plan will not show the true lenghts of the fuselage longerons from the rear of the cockpit. This is because the fuselage tapers, both in side view and top view. What this will mean is that if this is not taken into account, the overall length of the fuselage will be shorter than it should be when you join the fuselage frames up at the rear........er, I dont think I have explained that well. sorry

No Andy your not a pain!!nice of you to bring this to my attention.I do understand what you mean about the possibility of the Fuselage being shorter due to the tapering Stringers but as Campbell has mentioned ....."If the pattern is designed to be used like this, then perhaps the foreshortening thang is built in to the plan?".....I have measured her up and it seems to be ok....maybe it will be slightly out but its not going to fly and as long as it looks like a S.E.5.a thats good enough for me!!!.........thanks for your input mate!

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th Posted Jun 25 2011, 11:32 PM

Yeh - I understood. If the pattern is designed to be used like this, then perhaps the foreshortening thang is built in to the plan? Then again, using that prop as an example, accuracy may not be a prime goal. It also ought to be an issue with the wheel struts which are splayed out in reality (or at least on my Roden 1/48 SE5a), so copying the plan might result in undersized struts.

I'm sure that Fozzy has it all under control... : Earth to Fozzy? Come in Fozzy.

Bulgaria calling...Bulgaria calling....

Reading you loud and clear!! Campbell!!.........when scratch building one has to check and double check photo's and info ...these plans I am using are just to get the basics squared away so to speak....so therefore the wheel struts/propeller will have to be checked before fabricating them....else it will look ...........daft :o

Cheers to Oliver and Mish

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Reading you loud and clear!! Campbell!!.........when scratch building one has to check and double check photo's and info ...these plans I am using are just to get the basics squared away so to speak....so therefore the wheel struts/propeller will have to be checked before fabricating them....else it will look ...........daft :o

Cheers to Oliver and Mish

I'm ashamed ever to have doubted you :(

Looks like a bit of a shambles for you though what with the virus and scrapping the model. After my TSR2 incident, I know what it's like though.

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I'm ashamed ever to have doubted you :(

Looks like a bit of a shambles for you though what with the virus and scrapping the model. After my TSR2 incident, I know what it's like though.

Hi Campbell

Computer now fixed...only cost me about 7 quid...although I have lost all of my files at least I am back in the land of the living and connected to the world!!!

As for the S.E.5...I am glad I started again...its no use cheating from the start!!!...photo's to follow!

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Good afternoon to all

Well as you know I had to start all over again.

The Computer is holding out ,so thats good news!......I don't know why but I am having more difficulties with the Fuselage frame work than I normally get at this stage of the build ....so I need to dig deep for some patience....I am not going to give in with this one as I love the S.E.5.a.

So once again I placed the Stringers onto the building board and pinned and glued both Port and Starboard sides on top of each other for accuracy and left them over night to dry....................

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The Cross braces were then pinned onto the board (front end only) and the frame work sides were pinned and glued into position.............

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So as you can see it is a painfully slow business!!...I am sure you are all bored with it! :(

I will leave this again over night to dry and tomorrow I will be able to work towards the rear placing in the rest of the cross braces.

For those of you who are watching...thanks a lot chaps :)

Cheers

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I'm still watching and Im definitely not bored!

Brian

Brian....thanks a lot mate...then I will continue!!! ;)

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Dear Fozzy,

I am sorry that you had to go thru that BUT having seen your work, I know you will get it going again and the details that you want and need will work out as you want them..

....Shows that you are not afraid to break it up and start all over .. Good show...

Keep it going

I still love this build.

HOUSTON

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Dear Fozzy,

I am sorry that you had to go thru that BUT having seen your work, I know you will get it going again and the details that you want and need will work out as you want them..

....Shows that you are not afraid to break it up and start all over .. Good show...

Keep it going

I still love this build.

HOUSTON

Thanks for that Houston!

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......I don't know why but I am having more difficulties with the Fuselage frame work than I normally get at this stage of the build

Not that I want you to have nightmares, but could you tell us what sort of difficulties you are experiencing?

I'd also like to know what tools if you are using, I'd guess the scalpels, sanding blocks/paper/files etc, but do you use anything specialist?

Thanks, Tony

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Not that I want you to have nightmares, but could you tell us what sort of difficulties you are experiencing?

I'd also like to know what tools if you are using, I'd guess the scalpels, sanding blocks/paper/files etc, but do you use anything specialist?

Thanks, Tony

Hi Tony

Thanks for your interest in this project.

In reference to your questions about difficulties and tools etc....The major problem I have here living in Bulgaria is the fact that you cannot just go to the shops and buy materials and equipment like I used to do in the UK. This is mainly because the Bulgarians in general havn't any interest in any type of craft/hobby of any description!!!...there are a few stores in the large cities but they are at least 100 miles or so away from where I live........so to that end I have to make do with what I can bring back from the UK...and I don't often go there!I believe that the hard wood that I am using to build the Fuselage is not of good quality and splits a lot!!!I wanted to use wood because the real aircraft has a wooden construction!....In the end I'll get there!!I always do!! :unsure:

As for the tools I am using....just the usual really...as you said sanding blocks /files/scalpels....I really don't use specialized tools.....never have done..never could afford them....I have always tried to use the most basic of materials and tools thats why my scratch built models look like something out of ...."Blue Peter".....sticky tape and cornflake packs!! :lol:

Hope thats answered your question !

Cheers

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Looking good Fozzy, Ah! the nostalga of balsa models.

Cheers....yes I love working with Balsa wood!!

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With your talent for creating Fozz I wouldn't be surprised if this also smells like the origonal !!

Watching with interest mate

Si.

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With your talent for creating Fozz I wouldn't be surprised if this also smells like the origonal !!

Watching with interest mate

Si.

cheers pal

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... thats why my scratch built models look like something out of ...."Blue Peter".....sticky tape and cornflake packs!! :lol:

Me thinks that you undersell yourself Sir!

Thanks for the answers.

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Hi all

A quick update......to be honest I am suprised that I can actually send this post off over the Internet....this is my second attempt!!the authorities are upgrading our electricity supply in our village so the electricity is off and on all day long :angry: ....better than a friend of mine in the next village who hasn't had water for 4 days!....imagine that eh?...can you imagine the uproar in the UK if that happened?...when my friend enquired as to why there was no water supply he got no answer!!!...oh the joys of living in BG!!!! :rolleyes:

Any how enough of my ramblings...on with the update!

I have finally finished the lower half of the Fuselage and in this first photo you can see that I have sanded down the tail ends a tad and glued and clamped them together.......I had some lunch while that was drying...I'm sure you need to know when I actually have my lunch!! :P .......

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After my delicious lunch I finished off the lower half of the Fuselage by placing and gluing the remainding cross braces into place.................

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I am about to take the construction off the plan and check it over to make sure its looks true enough.....will post in a bit

Cheers

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