madaboutmodels Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I am thinking about buying a Airfix A300B4 and convert it into a -600, how would i do this and how much would i need to change thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivcev Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/airlinermodelling/ HOW DO I CONVERT AN AIRFIX A300B2 INTO ANOTHER A300 VERSION? (with hints about the Revell A310) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Laurent Herjean for updates or corrections, e-mail [email protected]) ------------------------------------------------------------ A300 variants: -------------- B1 First two prototypes, short fuselage. B2, B4 First production types, different operating weights. B2K, B4K B2, B4 with Kreuger flaps - not really visible at 1/144! -600 Advanced technology, A310 components, improved wing, increased fuselage and cabin length. -600R Extended-range -600 ..C, ..F Combi and Freighter variants ST Super Transporter "Beluga" A310 variants: -------------- -200 Basic version -300 Winglets Kits available: --------------- A300B2 1/144 Airfix, Air France and Lufthansa. 1/144 US Airfix, Eastern. Same mould as above. Out of production. 1/144 Daco, City Bird (although this livery should fit a -600), soon TNT. Limited run based on the Airfix mould. 1/125 Heller, Air France (current livery). Out of production. A300B4 1/200 Hasegawa. A310-200 1/144 Revell, KLM. Out of production. A310-300 1/144 Revell, Balair CTA. Out of production. 1/144 Revell, Interflug. A300-600 1/144 Bra.Z, resin conversion to mate with the Revell Beluga. A300-600ST 1/144 Revell. Out of production 1/144 Trumpeter. A300B2, B2K A300-600 1/1 Dimensions: A300B1 A300B4, B4K A300-600R A300-600ST A310 -------------------- ---------- ------------- ----------- ----------- ------ Wingspan 44.84 m 44.84 m 44.84 m 44.84 m 43.90 m 147" 1' 147" 1' 147" 1' 147" 1' 144" Overall length 50.97 m 53.62 m 54.08 m 56.16 m 46.66 m 167" 2' 175" 1' 177" 5' 184" 3' 153" 1' On the -600 and -600R the overall length is the result of the three added frames 1.59 m, 5'3") aft of door number 3 and the shorter tail section (1.13 m, 3'8" removed). Tailplane span 16.94 m 16.94 m 16.26 m 16.61 m 16.26 m 55"7' 55" 7' 53" 4' 54" 6' 53" 4' Engines ------- On the A300 one could choose between the CF6 or the JT9D. The Airfix A300B2 and the Beluga have CF6s of different generations - almost interchangeable on a model, but not *quite*... The alternative powerplant, the JT9D, did not look very different from the CF6 *except* that it had no visible ejection cone, slightly longer exhausts, and an adapted pylon trailing edge shaped differently. Conversion notes: ----------------- The scope of this article is not really to deal with the existing A300B2, A310-200, A310-300 and Beluga kits, their quality is good enough to make for a convincing model. May I, however, comment a bit: the Beluga shows its modern technology, with nicely recessed panel lines. The Airfix A300B2 and the two Revell A310 date back to the Seventies and early Eighties respectively ... as the raised panel lines attest! One of the Airfix flaws is that it does not capture the curved shape of the front doors. If you build your model with closed doors, some fine sanding and an adequate door outline decal will easily correct it. If you want open doors, then take your knife and start cutting! The Revell A310 kit has closed doors, slightly recessed with the correct shape. A300B1 ------ The B1 is basically a short B2 (5 sections less). At 1/144, the difference is 18.4 mm, 0.7'. Remove 7.4 mm, 0.3' (two windows) in front of the wing and 11 mm, 0.4' (three windows) aft of the wing but before door number 3. Note that only Ship 2 (F-WUAC, then OO-TEF) had a door number 3, on Ship One (F-WUAB, then F-OCAZ) it was replaced by two windows. The B1 had no window aft of door number 4 (all the others have one single window there). In the early months two windows showed on the left side, aft of door number 4, one almost at the tail root, one further aft, but somewhere in the middle of the roof and the window line continuation. They appear to have been deleted from Ship Two when it was in commercial use as OO-TEF. A300B1, B2, B2K, B4, B4K and cargo derivatives ---------------------------------------------- You might want to use the Revell Beluga wing because it offers a lot more detail than the Airfix one. Changes are as follows: remove the winglets, scribe an outboard aileron and build a 727-like leading edge wing fence at approximately 3/5 of the distance between the engine and the wingtip, starting from the engine. A300-600, -600R --------------- Until Bra.Z issued a -600 conversion kit (for the Revell Beluga), all you could do was mating the Airfix fuselage to the Revell Beluga wings and the Revell A310 stabilizers (and the corresponding scuff plates). One model for the price of three, bad deal! The fuselage is longer with three windows added aft of door number 3 (11 mm, 0.4') and a smaller section removed under the tail (-7.8 mm, -0.3'). When cutting this section you will find yourself with offset fuselage pieces, you'll need to fill and sand this area. Note that with the three extra windows the rear door is shifted right under the tail root. Note that the A300, A310, A330 and A340 share the same fuselage and nose section. This comes handy if you have converted a Revell A330/A340-300 into a -200 (see specific article): the remaining fuselage bits can theoretically be used to stretch the Airfix B2 into a -600 or -600R. A300 ..C, ..F (COMBI, FREIGHTER) -------------------------------- This is *not* the A300-600ST Beluga. Apparently only the B4 and -600 (and derivatives) exist as freighters, straight from the factory or converted. In theory nothing prevents a B2 to be converted but it looks like no one ever did it. I have *no* idea what the difference is between a C and a F. To me they both look like A300s with a cargo door and usually no windows. On an A300 freighter with windows, out of the nine windows between doors 1 and 2, windows 2, 3 and 9 are blanked out where the cargo door edges are. Windows 4 to 8 are in the cargo door. On freighters with no windows, only doors number 1 and 4, both sides, are maintained. There is one window between door 1 and the cargo door, and one window above the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 that just about sums it up.... it's not quite as easy a conversion as you might think, altho they look more or less the same, apart from obvious differences like the winglets and completely different engines, there are numerous other changes between the A300B and the A300-600. if your not picky at all, just change the engines and add winglets - it will *look* like a -600 but if you want to do right, then it's a fair bit of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madaboutmodels Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 could i take thae wings and engines from the revell beluga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babay Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I am thinking about buying a Airfix A300B4 and convert it into a -600, how would i do this and how much would i need to changethanks I love sawing. Check out this and to assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 The back end of the 600 is taken from the A310 and is noticeably bulkier when viewed side on. The B2 tapers very quickly towards the tailcone and looks quite pointy. According to Airbus the 600 is 510mm longer than the B4. The stretch is just behind door 3 and then the rest of the fuselage from there back is taken from the A310. I don't know how you can do that though as I bet the Revell 310 and Airfix 300 cross sections don't match! I think the wing is pretty similar apart from the deletion of the outboard low speed ailerons. I did buy an Aircraft In Miniature A310 many years ago to stretch it into an A300-600 but it would need a complete new wing and and had the old CF6 cowl shape so the project ground to a halt! Cheers Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf 64 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 there's also the Bra.Z conversion, Bra.Z.com if the cost doesn't put you off............ Hannants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprar Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 there's also the Bra.Z conversion,Bra.Z.com if the cost doesn't put you off............ Hannants LOL, tell me about it I brought the A340-600 conversion set about 4 weeks ago at the cost of 90 notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 could i take thae wings and engines from the revell beluga? yes but that still leaves the length of the fuselage and the tail to sort out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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