T0M4ever Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Could anyone with the Hobbyboss kit measure the length and width of the front and main u/c bays, and the diameter of the burner cans? I want to see if the Aires resin will fit onto the Airfix kit without being too large or small. Thanks! Airfix ones are: Main (L x W x H): 52mm x 13mm x 10mm Front: 31mm x 10mm x 9mm Exhausts: 17mm diameter, 15mm diameter where is fits into the fuselage. Edited June 10, 2011 by T0M4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Morning Chaps, I'm going to be opening the APU exhaust on the side and I can't seem to find a decent picture of what is inside. The best I have found is this on an Italian Tornado. So, the question I have is, does anyone have a good picture of the inside of the port, or can someone tell me what's there. I assume it's the exhaust pipe, but is it square, round, at an angle? Any help would be great. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Morning Chaps,I\'m going to be opening the APU exhaust on the side and I can\'t seem to find a decent picture of what is inside. The best I have found is this on an Italian Tornado. So, the question I have is, does anyone have a good picture of the inside of the port, or can someone tell me what\'s there. I assume it\'s the exhaust pipe, but is it square, round, at an angle? Any help would be great. Steve It\'s just a bare metal \'box\' shaped exhaust that slopes down & back,depth about 6in at the bottom to around a foot at the top iirc. Edit-found these photo\'s HERE Edited June 19, 2011 by spike7451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Top man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Does anyone know if the areas on the wing that go inside when wings are swung, would have been painted black on the all black F3 or left the grey colour they normally are? I assume they wouldn't have been painted. Also are they grey or a metallic colour? I notice in some photos in the ref thread they appear metallic, is the due to wear? Thanks in advance Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Does anyone know if the areas on the wing that go inside when wings are swung, would have been painted black on the all black F3 or left the grey colour they normally are? I assume they wouldn't have been painted.Also are they grey or a metallic colour? I notice in some photos in the ref thread they appear metallic, is the due to wear? Thanks in advance Phil You mean the sweep marks?..They would've been left dark gray as,iirc,it's a special coating that's applied to that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes sweep marks! Sorry the explaination was poor! How about the metallic look? I guess that's just likely to be wear? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes sweep marks! Sorry the explaination was poor!How about the metallic look? I guess that's just likely to be wear? Phil Graphite 'grease'...slightly metalic looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Thanks. I'll see how brave I'm feeling to attempt something that looks like that! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 HI gang - right silly question: On the F3 camo "barley" grey over light aircraft grey scheme - does the top colour wraparound the front of the wing flap leading edges? cheers Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 HI gang - right silly question:On the F3 camo "barley" grey over light aircraft grey scheme - does the top colour wraparound the front of the wing flap leading edges? cheers Jonners any answers gents? bumpy jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 any answers gents?bumpy jonners I think so mate,the's a couple foto's of a MPA F-3 with it's flaps out in the reference thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Evening all! Ok, I've finally started my GR.4 which will be a 617sqn aircraft, probably AJ-G. My question is how where the Storm Shadows attached? Is there a suitable pylon that is available for them? The ones I need are the fuselage ones. Cheers and sorry for my ignorance, but ask my a question about Airbusses anytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Does this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Evening all!Ok, I've finally started my GR.4 which will be a 617sqn aircraft, probably AJ-G. My question is how where the Storm Shadows attached? Is there a suitable pylon that is available for them? The ones I need are the fuselage ones. Cheers and sorry for my ignorance, but ask my a question about Airbusses anytime! They are attatched to the standard shoulder pylon HDERU (Heavy Duty Explosive Release Unit) on the middle of the three weapon stations on the pylons.That station was used for special weapons on the GR1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks guys! So basically I use the kit supplied shoulder pylons and mount the Storm Shadows on the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 OK, sorry but anothervquestion. Well, two actually. What colour are RAF Storm Shadows. I have read Dark Camo Grey, but the colour seems much darkervwhen compared to the replacement panels on ZA601 which were, according to the Xtradecal sheet, Dark Camo Grey along with the standard tanks. Q.2 is simply does anyone know where I can source decals for the Skyshadow and BOZ107 pods? I have the Paragon resin parts, but cannot find any decals amongst the kits in the stash. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Looking for some help here. as you know I am currently doing a WHIF Tornado carrying three AN/ALQ99 pods. Now I am contemplating putting on some form of self defence weapon. Now, because of where the pods will be hung (two outer pylons and one on the centre pylon under the fuselage) I am restricted on where I can put anything. My own thought is to use the rails on the inner fuel tank pylons as the shoulder pylons, as underneath the fuselage, would be impractical due to the pod on the centre rail, but I am happy to be wrong on this. As to the weapon, I think I may only get away with Sidewinders, as I think Sparrows/HARM's would be to heavy to mount on the rails. Can anyone help with any information and/or suggestions. Thanks, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Hi Steve, After the initial tests were carried out at Boscombe Down, the GR.1E was indeed found to be lacking in self defence armament and the inner fuel tank rails were adapted with shoulder launch rails for AIM-9M Sidewinders. The aircraft also had the lower fuselage shoulder pylons adapted with specially designed ejectors that 'launched the HARM's out at a 30 degree angle away from the centre station before ignition of the missiles rocket engine. This was a short lived conversion however as one aircraft was lost after the Nav inadvertently fired the HARM during final approach which resulted in the loss of the left main landing gear... (Do you really expect a serious answer from someone who puts the flaps in upside down??!!) Edited July 23, 2011 by Busdriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi Steve,After the initial tests were carried out at Boscombe Down, the GR.1E was indeed found to be lacking in self defence armament and the inner fuel tank rails were adapted with shoulder launch rails for AIM-9M Sidewinders. The aircraft also had the lower fuselage shoulder pylons adapted with specially designed ejectors that 'launched the HARM's out at a 30 degree angle away from the centre station before ignition of the missiles rocket engine. This was a short lived conversion however as one aircraft was lost after the Nav inadvertently fired the HARM during final approach which resulted in the loss of the left main landing gear... (Do you really expect a serious answer from someone who puts the flaps in upside down??!!) Thanks for the suggestion. To be honest I had noticed about your flaps, until Ian pointed it out. Aren't you a pilot? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I've seen pics of GR4's with Sidewinders on the shoulder pylon on the inner wing pylons. Would this be correct for a 617 Sqn aircraft with Storm Shadows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 I've seen pics of GR4's with Sidewinders on the shoulder pylon on the inner wing pylons. Would this be correct for a 617 Sqn aircraft with Storm Shadows? Only on the inside stub pylon of the inner pylon,the outer side is for ALARM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 info and pics needed of the seats used in ther RAF prototype - I'm doing the 3rd aircraft, which was the first one with dual controls, using an ancient italieri kit, which looks ok, but could do with a bit of added detail to the seats and cockpit, seats especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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