AndyC Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Fantasic photos, pity they were not in the IN when I made a search years ago. Many thanks for posting.Sorry to be a nit picker but: Four of the a/c ('Eastern') with 2 x two bladed props are H.P.42s. The other four ('Western') with four bladed props are H.P.45s. So the Airfix H.P. 42 "HERACLES" artwork showing it flying over the pyramids is a figment of their imagination, as the 'Heracles' was a H.P.45 'Westerner'. Karl. P.S. With the model it looks like I'll need a heated ball peen hammer. You know...that's what I love about this forum...the depth and breadth of knowledge of those present - I hardly think a day goes by which doesn't expand my catalogue of aero-facts! Brilliant - I just need a place to use them on someone else! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Fantasic photos, pity they were not in the IN when I made a search years ago. Many thanks for posting.Sorry to be a nit picker but: Four of the a/c ('Eastern') with 2 x two bladed props are H.P.42s. The other four ('Western') with four bladed props are H.P.45s. So the Airfix H.P. 42 "HERACLES" artwork showing it flying over the pyramids is a figment of their imagination, as the 'Heracles' was a H.P.45 'Westerner'. Karl. P.S. With the model it looks like I'll need a heated ball peen hammer. Sorry, late return to this and Karl, you are quite right. Originally, when Imperial Airways sent their requirements, Handley Page designated the aircraft as HP42 and HP45 to reflect different interior arrangements, props and engines....however, in practice the aircraft were simply referred to as HP-42E or HP-42W Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 You know...that's what I love about this forum...the depth and breadth of knowledge of those present - I hardly think a day goes by which doesn't expand my catalogue of aero-facts! Brilliant - I just need a place to use them on someone else!Andy Lol, doesn't seem so effective on the missus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richellis Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I love these, thanks for putting the Airfix HP.42 back to the top of my shopping list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Disaster - pics are gone when I was about to resume HP42 project! Who knows where can I find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Have a look thru HERE. There seem to be some of them on here, I think this is where Daniel may have got them from originally according to this post. Steve. Edited September 1, 2011 by stevehnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuflyer Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Some wonderful pictures - the HP42 is one of my favourite aeroplanes, and I normally only do military subjects. I have built two of the Contrail kits as comissions but would love to get my hands on another, especially now I have these superb pictures as reference. ( I never realised she had Frise ailerons for a start...) Thanks very much for posting them:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingModelsAgain Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 These pics are proving invaluable for my HP42 build, taking me off in lots of wonderful detailing directions! Would anyone know of any interior pics, in particular, the passenger cabins? I have one or two, but the more the merrier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothian man Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Lovely photos, many thanks. Those are really useful. Just been looking at my new Airfix Swordfish and admiring the quality of the wing detail. Do you think Airfix could be persuaded to do a Swordfish on the HP.42 to 1/72 scale?? Perhaps not, but ...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mop Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Lovely photos, many thanks. Those are really useful. Just been looking at my new Airfix Swordfish and admiring the quality of the wing detail. Do you think Airfix could be persuaded to do a Swordfish on the HP.42 to 1/72 scale?? Perhaps not, but ...! put me down for 1 if they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.N Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I am just starting to build the 1:144 scale Airfix HP42 HERACLES and was interested to read about the 2 X 2 bladed and 4 bladed props. on the E and W types respectively. Not surprisingly for an old kit, the decals have degraded and so I will have to find replacements. I understand that specials are produced on demand. Can anyone direct me to a supplier.? Also I noticed that hand painted colour posters, produced for Imperial Airways in the 1930s, show the company name and aircraft name on the fuselage in blue, whereas the kit has black lettering. I haven't found confirmation that blue is the correct colour. It would be nice to have correct decals, so comments welcome gents. In case I have to get custom made decals, it would also be good to know the font used for the company names, also the font of registration lettering. Finally where can I get a 1:144 scale flag showing the cross of St George with the union jack in the top corner. I see this was flown from a removable staff when the aircraft was on the ground. The HP 42 was before my time, but I fondly remember spending time at Croydon Airport in the mid-50s. hence the association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 David, for decals I have used Arctic Decals for a one-off and they were beautiful: https://www.arcticdecals.com/ Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Mike Grant once sold me a set of decals for the HP42. I don't know if he still has any (Alps printed, and this was knocking on 10 years ago). I don't see them on his website (http://mikegrantdecals.com/shop/) Worth asking if he can run you a set off, if Arctic don't work out. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy8 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The colour of the lettering on Imperial Airways aircraft is a vexed subject. There are documents in the BA archive which suggest that the lettering on all mainline passenger carrying aircraft was intended to be "Imperial Blue" or "Company Blue", whereas the lettering on other company aircraft (e.g. mail-carriers, those only used for charter) was intended to be black. I very much doubt that this was strictly adhered to. The two Avro 652s G-ACRM and G-ACRM, which were very definitely in that second-line category, were almost certainly finished with blue lettering, and left that way when Imperial repainted them. There are letters in the archive detailing occasionally quite acrimonious correspondence between Imperial and Shorts because Shorts kept delivering aircraft with black lettering when it should have been blue (definitely the two L.17s, perhaps a number of C-Class boats). There is more, but it doesn't answer the question. If there's any record of a resolution to this, I haven't found it. We're not helped in that the blue is so dark that it is often indistinguishable from black in black-and-white photos - particularly given that many of those will have been taken with a filter on the lens to darken blues to make the sky more interesting. And there is no record of precisely what colour Company Blue was. In internal records it is only referred to by that name or by reference to an ICI catalogue number - contact with ICI revealed that catalogue to contain only special mixes for particular customers; numbers issued in chronological order, and beyond that they hadn't kept the records. As a best guess, Imperial "Company Blue" and BOAC "Corporation Blue" are one and the same colour, but while the 1960s BOAC blue is fairly well documented, there is evidence that it wasn't quite the same colour as that for immediately post-war. (During the war, lettering on all BOAC aircraft was supposed to be black, with silver outline as necessary, but it seems some painters used blue when it was available...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jernfors Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hi David, Not a problem with the 1/144 scale Heracles decals, I have them, although not added into my website. But there is a nasty problem; I am not able to send decals straight to NZ because of the current Covid situation. It is the same whith shipments to Australia; I had to send a letter at first to a person living in the UK, who then mailed it to Australia. Just send me an email to arcticdecals[AT]gmail.com . Regards, Mika Arctic Decals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hi Mika, When do you anticipate releasing the 1/72 HP42/45 decals with the chrome window surrounds? Looking forward to them! Regards, Malc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jernfors Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hi again, I visited just the Finnish Post's site to find that now it is again possible to send the decals to NZ and Australia. Malc,; the 1/72 scale decals are already available: https://www.arcticdecals.com/products.html?id=21443/982606 Mika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Fantastic! Order placed. Now means I have to finish my Contrail model....... Eligible for the next KUTA!? Malc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBlondJohn Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 With Airfix planning to re-issue the HP42 this year we may need more of those decals - I bet the lettering will be black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert falcon Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Evening all, came across this post and was wandering if you guys have seen this old movie called Air Outpost? It's quite nice and is showing G-AAUD HANNO going through a night stop at the old Sharjah airport in the 1930's. The airport, build as a fort, is now a small aviation museum know as Al Mahatta Museum and certainly a visit worth should you find your self in the United Arab Emirates one day. Cheers Johnny b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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