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Wez

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I believe so. It has been announced as a new kit, and the moulds of the old Mk.I have been described as too worn. Whether it is an entirely new kit, or based on the same tools as the newer Mk.I, may be a matter of wait and see but IIRC the newer Mk.I does have a hole in the cowling to be drilled through for the Coffman starter of the Mk.II, which is a pretty strong hint.

PS wasn't in my LHS this afternnon!

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Yes. As Graham has pointed out, there's a flashed over hole for the Coffman starter. The new kit is stated as having 40+ bits as opposed to the 30+ bits of the Mk Ia from last year. The increase in parts covers a new canopy, aerial, 2-3 bits per prop (Watts + Rotol) and something else. It'd be interesting tp see if they try to get a Va out of the same kit which would be easy enough by adding a new oil cooler.

And at half the price of the AZ early Mk I I know which one I'll be buying multiples of...

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Yes. As Graham has pointed out, there's a flashed over hole for the Coffman starter. The new kit is stated as having 40+ bits as opposed to the 30+ bits of the Mk Ia from last year. The increase in parts covers a new canopy, aerial, 2-3 bits per prop (Watts + Rotol) and something else. It'd be interesting tp see if they try to get a Va out of the same kit which would be easy enough by adding a new oil cooler.

And at half the price of the AZ early Mk I I know which one I'll be buying multiples of...

IIRC, to squeeze a Va out of it would require new ailerons (metal) as the existing mold/kit has fabric. Although as I painfully figured out recently by destroying two Tamiya kits (Ia and Vb) it probably would be easy to sand the fabric effect away to make the Va...with a correct oil cooler, prop/spinner, etc., of course.

Tim

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IIRC, to squeeze a Va out of it would require new ailerons (metal) as the existing mold/kit has fabric. Although as I painfully figured out recently by destroying two Tamiya kits (Ia and Vb) it probably would be easy to sand the fabric effect away to make the Va...with a correct oil cooler, prop/spinner, etc., of course.

Tim

Tim,

I'm sure I remember reading in Wing Leader by Johnnie Johnson that the metal ailerons were a mod that he was expecting a bill for having signed for the work done on the Sqn's/Wing's aircraft when Douglas Bader was his wing leader, which would suggest that metal ailerons is not always a given for a Mk.Va (happy to be corrected though).

Thanks to the others for replying, does anybody know whether the kit will retain the DH prop? Whilst it's more than the original boxing (by a whole 2 shiny quids), I still think that this package could represent good VFM if it covers all the prop and canopy combinations - truth told though, I was surprised that the original kit only cost £4.99.

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Wez

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Don't forget 3D kits do decals for Mk II's and as anyone who went to the Cosford show might remember, they have something in the pipeline, regards this.

What Mike is referring to is our forthcoming LR tank for the Airfix Mk II, due mid June.

This is a 'photo' taken from the CAD file.

Spitfire-MkII-LR-Fuel-Tank-800.jpg

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I believe so. It has been announced as a new kit, and the moulds of the old Mk.I have been described as too worn. Whether it is an entirely new kit, or based on the same tools as the newer Mk.I, may be a matter of wait and see but IIRC the newer Mk.I does have a hole in the cowling to be drilled through for the Coffman starter of the Mk.II, which is a pretty strong hint.

PS wasn't in my LHS this afternnon!

Wasn't in Wonderland Models yesterday either.

John

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Would this LR tank fit Tamiya's Spitfire? It looks great and together with your Rotol set would allow me to build LR Spit.

The LR conversion set has been designed for the new Airfix Mk I/Mk II kit. The Tamiya kit has a slightly blunter and thicker leading edge, so you will need to enlarge the front of the cut out on the tank to get a good fit. The lower wing profiles are almost identical on the Tamiya and Airfix Spitfires, so no work will be needed there.

Stewart

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Thanks to the others for replying, does anybody know whether the kit will retain the DH prop? Whilst it's more than the original boxing (by a whole 2 shiny quids), I still think that this package could represent good VFM if it covers all the prop and canopy combinations - truth told though, I was surprised that the original kit only cost £4.99.

Regards

Wez

Friend of mine rang me y'day saying he'd picked this kit up in Swansea Modelzone. He says there are three props in it, but doesn't know the difference between a Rotol & DH, but I'm assuming those are the two three bladers in the kit (the third is obviously the two blade). It does also have the flat sided canopy. Only two decal options though, & I'm led to believe one is for a 19 squadron with codes & B type roundels & the other (I think he said) is for a MkII.

Unfortunately it also apparently retains the trenches purporting to be panel lines.... :whistle:

K

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Friend of mine rang me y'day saying he'd picked this kit up in Swansea Modelzone. He says there are three props in it, but doesn't know the difference between a Rotol & DH, but I'm assuming those are the two three bladers in the kit (the third is obviously the two blade). It does also have the flat sided canopy. Only two decal options though, & I'm led to believe one is for a 19 squadron with codes & B type roundels & the other (I think he said) is for a MkII.

Unfortunately it also apparently retains the trenches purporting to be panel lines.... :whistle:

K

Thanks for that Keef - just what I was hoping to hear.

As for those panel lines - they're there to cope with my hand-fisted modelling!

Wez

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The LR conversion set has been designed for the new Airfix Mk I/Mk II kit. The Tamiya kit has a slightly blunter and thicker leading edge, so you will need to enlarge the front of the cut out on the tank to get a good fit. The lower wing profiles are almost identical on the Tamiya and Airfix Spitfires, so no work will be needed there.

Stewart

Stewart,

Will you be including a decal sheet with the LR conversion like you did with the Rotol prop conversion (which I bought incidentally - very good it is too)?

Wez

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If the 1/72 kit is anything like the 1/48, both oil coolers will be present. It will depend on how Airfix have approached doing this kit. If it's the 1/48 scaled down, then both oil coolers should be there. If they have added extra parts to their new tool Mk I, then maybe it isn't.

thanks

Mike

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I stand to be corrected (Edgar are you here?), but I believe that metal ailerons were standard fit on the Vc onwards and were a retrofit on the Vb. Not sure if the Va had them?

Trevor

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Will you be including a decal sheet with the LR conversion like you did with the Rotol prop conversion (which I bought incidentally - very good it is too)?

I've still got to make a decision on this. I'm minded to provide a simple decal sheet with the serials and identification codes only for a couple of aircraft, leaving the modeller to use the roundels and fin flashes from the donor kit. Alternatively, I could provide a complete decal sheet for say, 4 aircraft, but that would put the price up. The alternative is no decals, which would make for the cheapest package.

Which would you prefer?

Stewart

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Stewart, have you any plans to do an enlarged oil cooler for this kit, to make a Mk.VA?

Not at present, but it would be a straightforward project, so possibly something for the future.

Stewart

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I've still got to make a decision on this. I'm minded to provide a simple decal sheet with the serials and identification codes only for a couple of aircraft, leaving the modeller to use the roundels and fin flashes from the donor kit. Alternatively, I could provide a complete decal sheet for say, 4 aircraft, but that would put the price up. The alternative is no decals, which would make for the cheapest package.

Which would you prefer?

Stewart

Given that Airfix transfers are no longer the bad joke they used to be, personally I'd support the codes and serials option: a small sheet in 2, poss 3 colours, shouldn't be too expensive - for you or us! A cheaper no-transfer option would be nice for those of us with good transfer resources. Although I'm sure a complete transfer sheet for 4 aircraft (including 4 sets of stencils?) from you would be an excellent product, I query whether it could be that much better enough than the kit transfers to make it a paying proposition for you.

Good luck, whatever you do! And where are those WW2 RAF bombs?

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Stewart,

I'd prefer just the serials and codes. Of note, Aviation Workshop provide decals for a IIa, II (LR) and Va (one each of the 8 total subjects) on sheet 72114.

And a larger oil cooler for the Va would be nice. I'd purchase a few even if just to improve some other kits (older Airfix Vb/c).

Regards,

Tim

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Stewart, have you any plans to do an enlarged oil cooler for this kit, to make a Mk.VA?

You could always nick it from a Hobbyboss Vb. It'll fit and the one from the Airfix kit goes onto the Hobbyboss kit to do a Ia with minimal fuss - I've one on the bench now.

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