Nigel Bunker Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Long ago, before the Berlin wall fell, I used to trade models, and one day I got this aircraft in a polythene bag marked RB.17 or KB.19 (ink has smudged). Google yields nothing. Can anybody tell me what it is? The wingspan is 115mm which equates to 8.28m (27 ft 2 inches). The position of the ailerons shows that the main casting has its nose to the left. I am guessing it is pre-war, though it could be a post war design. Could it be an early canard type? Sorry for the quality of picture but the camera has flat batteries so I have used my phone. Edited March 9, 2011 by Nigel Bunker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Long ago, before the Berlin wall fell, I used to trade models, and one day I got this aircraft in a polythene bag marked RB.17 or KB.19 (ink has smudged). Google yields nothing.Can anybody tell me what it is? The wingspan is 115mm which equates to 8.28m (27 ft 2 inches). The position of the ailerons shows that the main casting has its nose to the left. I am guessing it is pre-war, though it could be a post war design. Could it be an early canard type? Sorry for the quality of picture but the camera has flat batteries so I have used my phone. It's a small Russian canard UT---The name has slipped my memory for the moment. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) It's a small Russian canard UT---The name has slipped my memory for the moment.John I thought that at first but it doesn't look correct to be the Mig-8 Utka. Wrong cockpit, wrong front canard, no swept main wing etc. HTH Andy Edited March 9, 2011 by andym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 It can't be a Mig 8 Utka as it only has one tail surface, not two. The hunt is still on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Long ago, before the Berlin wall fell, I used to trade models, and one day I got this aircraft in a polythene bag marked RB.17 or KB.19 (ink has smudged). Google yields nothing.Can anybody tell me what it is? The wingspan is 115mm which equates to 8.28m (27 ft 2 inches). The position of the ailerons shows that the main casting has its nose to the left. I am guessing it is pre-war, though it could be a post war design. Could it be an early canard type? Sorry for the quality of picture but the camera has flat batteries so I have used my phone. Is there any sign of it's propulsion eg. rocket, propellor etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonb13 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 It's hard to tell from the photo, it looks a lot like the MiG-8. It could just be a badly shaped model ( god knows there are enough of them out there! ). It could also be a Focke-Wulf F 19 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_F_19 ) but it'd also be a badly shaped model. Though that could fit in with the writing on the bag ( well, kinda... ) J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deon Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think its Soviet, and I have one too, but its not in Gunstons book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 Is there any sign of it's propulsion eg. rocket, propellor etc.? It has a small two bladed propellor, but I see no indication as to whether is is a pusher or puller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonb13 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, that rules out the F19 then ( which was always a long shot ). The Mig-8 had a two bladed propeller, it still seems to be the closest one, though it's missing the swept wings... J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 This thing is irritating me because I should know it. It's not the Mig 8 or the FW Ente. I seem to think it was in L&K. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) I have stuck the model together with blu tack and using drawing software, "fitted " the canopy. perhaps this will help identify it. If I am right, then the small two bladed prop goes at the front of the plane. Edited March 10, 2011 by Nigel Bunker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Interesting. Looks kind of 'Luftwaffe '46' to me! Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If I am right, then the small two bladed prop goes at the front of the plane. I suggest it's a pusher with an underfin because canards can be pretty funny aerodynamicaly with the canard plane in propwash. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Interesting. Looks kind of 'Luftwaffe '46' to me!Will I'm with Will on this one. Might be worth browsing Lonewulfe Model's website for some clues? Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 A Skoda Kauba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollieholmes Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) I may be clutching at straws here but im sure ive seen a very much like a post war home build ive seen somewhere recantly. And im pretty sure the prop went at the back. Edited March 15, 2011 by ollieholmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Electric Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Not something by Miles by any chance? C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollieholmes Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Not something by Miles by any chance?C I cant think of any Miles aircraft i know of like that. But im guessing it could be a paper design that never flew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just to liven things up, identify it and it is yours. ideally, post a picture or plans of the actual thing, and you can have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moofles Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 bugger i really want this lil plane, this is the closest thing i can find that looks like it. http://www.hughlorimer.co.uk/iolaire_info.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Electric Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 OK, I give up - I'd banked on it being some kind of Ambrosini design but no joy, although it's looks a little like the SS4 of '39 but with a different tail. That nose shape looks very Bachem Natterish to me, but I'm sure they never produced a canard! Ah well... C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moofles Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Im with you EE, i have no idea, perhaps a better searcher then me can answer the question on what the hell this thing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) . Edited April 25, 2011 by Eric Mc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 It looks like the F.19 Ente to me. The tailfin looks similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 It's ugly and looks as if it shouldn't b allowed to fly so I would say French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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