thx6667 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I dunno what it is with pics but the panel lines are much finer than they appear. Advantages over the Hasegawa kit - proper RAF Harrier including the antennae on the ventral fin; RAF stores, 65% and 100% LERX; separate airbrake, forward air dam; open wheel wells, open auxiliary intake doors, not to mention separate flaps and control surfaces and a choice of open or closed IFRP. Moulded cockpit rather than decals. It also sits on all five wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) I thought the 30mm pods ended up not being available on the GR9? Aren't the housings just used as alternative LIDS? (or camera housings on ZD320?) None of the GR5/7/9 had guns in the pods, and if a Sniper pod (or TIALD), a LID was carried opposite until TERMA came along. The breakdown of parts would make producing an AV-8B/NA/B+ easier as well. Edited March 3, 2011 by Dave Fleming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I dunno what it is with pics but the panel lines are much finer than they appear. You must have seen one of those special kits for reviewers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Thanks for the pictures Bill. Any mention of what squadrons will be on the decal sheet ? Like everyone else looking forward to this release. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Right according to the Airfix catalogue the markings will be: 800 NAS 4 Sqdn (Display aircraft) And 1 Sqdn "Lucy" Edited March 3, 2011 by daz greenwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Why do they have to make the sprue gates so damn big??!!Tony Presumably to reduce the risk of short-shotting (if that's even a word)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard M Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Right according to the Airfix catalogue the markings will be:And 1 Sqdn "Lucy" I wonder if that will be a proper "Lucy", or with the swapped out panel so you can only see her toes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'm hoping it's the proper "Lucy" mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 I dunno what it is with pics but the panel lines are much finer than they appear. Advantages over the Hasegawa kit - proper RAF Harrier including the antennae on the ventral fin; RAF stores, 65% and 100% LERX; separate airbrake, forward air dam; open wheel wells, open auxiliary intake doors, not to mention separate flaps and control surfaces and a choice of open or closed IFRP. Moulded cockpit rather than decals.It also sits on all five wheels! And a decal for the MDC The only place where the panel lines looked a bit overdone were on the nose - BUT the pull out crew access steps are incredibly well done - should be easly to drill out and show open. The detail aft of the exhaust is fantastic! The rest of the detail looked fine...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I dunno what it is with pics but the panel lines are much finer than they appear. Advantages over the Hasegawa kit - proper RAF Harrier including the antennae on the ventral fin; RAF stores, 65% and 100% LERX; separate airbrake, forward air dam; open wheel wells, open auxiliary intake doors, not to mention separate flaps and control surfaces and a choice of open or closed IFRP. Moulded cockpit rather than decals.It also sits on all five wheels! Airfix are now providing some evidence of doing what one hopes they'd have been doing all along: sizing up the opposition first and coming up with something better, not something that fails to compete with what's already on the market. Let's hope so. Saw these at Yeovilton and they are a very exciting prospect. Airfix are taking over from MPM/Special Hobby as the people who run a coach and horses through my "no new kits" policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 The Medway Modelling Club spent a rather nice day at Margate today - as the guests of Messrs Hornby. A few things to report, first of all there were palettes of 1/72nd RAF Canadair Sabre F4 - which had just turned up - and NO they wouldn't let us check the boxes for them! Hi Bill. It was a good day out, have you packed your mug away safely. I am sure that they would not have missed a box of Sabre's, we could have distracted Dale's attention away for a few moments to stash one in your car boot. The Land Rover will look nice alongside the new 1/48th Merlin. Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow07 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Finally,the air refueling probe can be shown open good stuff, thanks for the phots - its already been asked *somewhere* but when is the darn thing coming out? Especially after the retirement, these kits I reckon are gonna go quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Airfix are now providing some evidence of doing what one hopes they'd have been doing all along: sizing up the opposition first and coming up with something better, not something that fails to compete with what's already on the market. Let's hope so. Saw these at Yeovilton and they are a very exciting prospect. Airfix are taking over from MPM/Special Hobby as the people who run a coach and horses through my "no new kits" policy. It was quite refreshing listening to the presentation from their R&D team....they do read these websites, and do take constructive criticism on board. If anyone has any doubts as to where Airfix are heading in terms of quality, then they should take a look at the Hornby model railway range. Take a look at their latest releases - particularly in 1/72nd and you'll see them improving with every issue. The difference between the SHARS and the GR9 is marked - similar plastic, similar layouts - but vastly improved! Another year or two and who knows what they'll be producing? And consider that they are also replacing old tools!! Blenheim's? Defiant's? Lightnings? Tornado's? Name YOUR favourite!! The world is their lobster pot!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Hi Bill.It was a good day out, have you packed your mug away safely. I am sure that they would not have missed a box of Sabre's, we could have distracted Dale's attention away for a few moments to stash one in your car boot. The Land Rover will look nice alongside the new 1/48th Merlin. Robin. Yes, it was indeed Robin - and yes the mug is home safe and sound!! (When I say mug - I mean the china variety!!) Edited March 3, 2011 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocksAway Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I can wait for the 1/48 scale version - fingers crossed - but only another 12 months! Don't really want to drop to this scale. Nosewheel bay detail? Views on the cockpit / seat detailing? Hard to tell if made-up model has outriggers attached. My eyes must be going If the decals are for 800 NAS, 4 Sqdn (Display aircraft) and 1 Sqdn "Lucy" then no DG/DSG/LAG paint required (e.g. for ZG506). Still, time to change that or let the aftermarket cater for it? 3 cheers to Airfix - Hasegawa need some Harrier competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpie Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 but we were told that one of the schemes will need some Dark Green/Dark Sea Grey and Light Aircraft Grey paint!! This is the bit I'm excited about, the various pre shots have already whetted my appatite for this bird but to get the most impressive of the retirement schemes in the box is a real bonus As ever Airfix have provided at least a full load out of weapons (the lack of ADEN's for some GR.7s is a bit disapointing but not suprising), other manufacturers take note, these machines are designed to delivery the weapons systems and they are as much a part of the aircraft as anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) I can wait for the 1/48 scale version - fingers crossed - but only another 12 months! Don't really want to drop to this scale.Nosewheel bay detail? Views on the cockpit / seat detailing? Hard to tell if made-up model has outriggers attached. My eyes must be going If the decals are for 800 NAS, 4 Sqdn (Display aircraft) and 1 Sqdn "Lucy" then no DG/DSG/LAG paint required (e.g. for ZG506). Still, time to change that or let the aftermarket cater for it? 3 cheers to Airfix - Hasegawa need some Harrier competition The man at Airfix told us yesterday that ZG506 in its retirement finery was one of the schemes included.... One thing I forgot to mention was that they look like they have the wing shape spot on. The Hasegawa/Revell "kink" is missing yet there does appear to be the correct angle change in the upper wing. regarding the interior, the aux. blow in doors behind the seat on the cockpit sill are there and nicely detailed. The I.P looked okay and the seat was in I think at least two maybe three parts. There is side wall detail, and a fairly decent set of side consuls - which do look a bit skinny - but then the real things didn't fit onto a nine inch thick wall!! Edited March 3, 2011 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 The real Harrier II wing does have a twist about halfway down, more or less where the wing fence is - Hasegawa overdid this, the angle is too sudden, "cranked winged Harrier" was one description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lufbramatt Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 yep, the harrier 2 wing effectively has a huge amount of washout, something like 11 degrees, but most of this is inboard of the outrigger. So the kink is caused due to there being less twist on the outer wing section, outboard of the outrigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Not sure where you're getting that washout figure Matt - the wing has 11 degrees of anhedral but that's not the same as washout. I believe there's about a 2 degree difference in AoI between root and tip. I'm more than happy to be corrected if you've got access to better data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lufbramatt Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 i stand corrected- it is 11 degrees of anhedral (I knew i'd seen an 11 somewhere!) but it does have 8 degrees of washout, from +3 degrees incidence on the aircraft CL to -5 degrees at the tip. There is only 2 degrees of twist from the outrigger to the tip. This is taken from a copy I have of a McDonell Douglas GA drawing for the AV8B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Thanks for that Matt. Pm inbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I can wait for the 1/48 scale version - fingers crossed - but only another 12 months! Don't really want to drop to this scale.Nosewheel bay detail? Views on the cockpit / seat detailing? Hard to tell if made-up model has outriggers attached. My eyes must be going If the decals are for 800 NAS, 4 Sqdn (Display aircraft) and 1 Sqdn "Lucy" then no DG/DSG/LAG paint required (e.g. for ZG506). Still, time to change that or let the aftermarket cater for it? 3 cheers to Airfix - Hasegawa need some Harrier competition ... I wish for a GR.7/9 scale-up in 1/32 or much better in 1/24!!! CIAO! Piero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 The breakdown of parts would make producing an AV-8B/NA/B+ easier as well. I hope so, with the AV-8B still going strong it would be foolish not to propose this version. A B+ would be even nicer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 The breakdown of parts would make producing an AV-8B/NA/B+ easier as well. I was thinking the opposite actually - the nosecone is moulded with the cockpit and the longer avionics bay intake would require a new fin. I hope it's Airfix's revenge for Hasegawa/Revell offering GRs with Stencel seats!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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