bungynik Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hi guys, a new review of Eduard MiG-21MF just have been released. http://inscale.org/pub/index.php?topic=1151.0 Today I received my kit as well, but when I opened the box to examine the parts, I couldn't believe that this is the Eduard model. It can easily be compared with any Japanese manufactured model, and even outmatch them in most aspects. Rally great model. I have reading here how god this model is, but still I didn't expect this level of quality and precision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Can't believe i missed this pre-order I'll have to hunt down the general release kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi guys,a new review of Eduard MiG-21MF just have been released. http://inscale.org/pub/index.php?topic=1151.0 Today I received my kit as well, but when I opened the box to examine the parts, I couldn't believe that this is the Eduard model. It can easily be compared with any Japanese manufactured model, and even outmatch them in most aspects. Rally great model. I have reading here how god this model is, but still I didn't expect this level of quality and precision. I think it may well be the best 1/48 jet kit ever done. Other than the lack of enough plastic parts to build the cockpit (without having to use the pre-painted - in the wrong color - PE), I've yet to find anything to really criticize about it. The fit is stupendous, the detail is incredible, and they've absolutely *nailed* the look and sit of the MiG-21 to a tee. The surface detail is every bit the equal of the vaunted Tamiya 1/32 Spitfire, and superior to almost every other kit out there. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungynik Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Yes Jennings, I fully agree with you. For most "Tamygawa" lovers, it's still hard to accept that. But here, I'm much more thrilled with the accuracy and with the fact that finally someone carried out thorough research, before releasing the model on market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) Does anyone know where I can get references for camouflaged VPAF MIG-21's, I quite fancy doing a rather weathered camo one but the majority of photo's show NMF examples. Someone on here as a side profile of one on their Vietnam War GB banner but I can't find it just now. I wondered if maybe the Osprey book, MIG-21 Units of the V War was any good? Edited April 2, 2011 by Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGERD Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 picked mine up from the Newbury show for 30 quid! straight to the top of the build pile, in fact I,ve already made a start Rogerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Does anyone know where I can get references for camouflaged VPAF MIG-21's, I quite fancy doing a rather weathered camo one but the majority of photo's show NMF examples. Someone on here as a side profile of one on their Vietnam War GB banner but I can't find it just now. I wondered if maybe the Osprey book, MIG-21 Units of the V War was any good? Be VERY wary of any profiles you see, no matter how good they look. The new(ish) Hikoki book on the MiG in Vietnamese service is full of errors, and therefore suspect on all counts in my book. They've got a profile of a MiG-21MF in overall (and I mean over*all*) very dark green, but no photo to back it up. Likewise with some of the other profiles. The *vast* majority of VPAF MiG-21s were in either basic natural metal or overall painted silver. There is one photo in the book of a PFM with green spots on top, with a matching profile. I'm not sure I've ever seen any documentation of a later model MiG-21 from the wartime period in anything but silver/NMF. Much later (1980s/90s/2000s) their MiG-21bis's got some interesting camo, but that was long, long after the US had packed up and gone home. I don't have the Osprey book, but again, unless there's a photo to back up a profile, I'd be highly suspicious of it... J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungynik Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Again you are right Jennings. Most of those books are like fairy-tales when we speak about VPAF. There are some good profiles for PFM, but nothing reliable for MF. I think I have all the books of MiG-21 that worth something and neither the Russian books neither the western publishers books, that focusing on Vietnam war thematics, didn't gave any reliable information regarding MF camo. If you have the time and patience, go and check some Chinese forums. Think they have some informations regarding this. Edited April 3, 2011 by bungynik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 Thanks for that chaps, I have the Phantom v MIG 21 Osprey book and theres 1 or 2 grainy b&w pictures of camo examples but they appear to be the ones that have been roughly over sprayed on the upper surfaces. It's the one that you mention Jennings that I like the look of, the overall dark green one but not seen any photographic evidence. I'll try looking some more on the internet tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Thanks for that chaps, I have the Phantom v MIG 21 Osprey book and theres 1 or 2 grainy b&w pictures of camo examples but they appear to be the ones that have been roughly over sprayed on the upper surfaces. It's the one that you mention Jennings that I like the look of, the overall dark green one but not seen any photographic evidence. I'll try looking some more on the internet tonight. If you find anything, you'll be a better Googler than I am. I've been trolling the web for several weeks now. I think the upshot is, many of the VPAF's PFMs were camouflaged, but very few, if any, of the MFs were. There are scads of photos of MFs floating around, and not one of them that I've seen shows one in anything other than natural metal. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I think the upshot is, many of the VPAF's PFMs were camouflaged, but very few, if any, of the MFs were. There are scads of photos of MFs floating around, and not one of them that I've seen shows one in anything other than natural metal. J How about this one then... Edit: It's a PFM. Drats!!! Edited July 31, 2014 by Panoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) That's nice, but it's a PFM, not an MF. Note the little 'gill slits' just below and behind the main canopy. Not found on the MF. Also note the narrow spine where it joins the tail. Also not found on the MF. Try again. Edited July 30, 2014 by Jennings Heilig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Try again. I have only one other photo of an overall Dark Green VNAF MiG-21 but it's a -PF. So I suppose that we can safely say that there were no MiG-21MFs in other than Silver. And regarding the Dark Green VNAF MiG-21MF Red 5040 in Boniface's mess (I wouldn't even call it a book; it's that bad), the real aircraft was a PFM. Have a photo of it in Silver paint. (Which naturally I can't seem to find now.) Who knows it might even be the one I posted above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Like I said, I've looked for ages (my post above is 3 years old). Haven't found one yet. Those are PFMs, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Like I said, I've looked for ages (my post above is 3 years old). Haven't found one yet. Those are PFMs, BTW. Thanks for the correction. So it's probably the same aircraft as in the previous photo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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