moaning dolphin Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Greetings all, Went to the Bovington Tank Museum last Saturday, and what a hidden gem I thought. Great collection there. I'm more of a Naval/aviation modeller but I was bitten by what I saw, the first time I've got up close to these monsters. The other bonus was that military personnel get in free! although I didn't have my ID on me next time i'm passing will definately pop in. Even my lad was impressed, especially with the tables full of tanks and soldiers to have your own wargames ( although he was unimpressed that I beat him all the time!). Unfortunatly there was one disappointment for the visit, on the way out I was accosted by someone and dragged into the gift shop and threatened that if I didnt buy some of their vast array of armour kits that my head would explode! I duly obliged and came away with an Italeri 1:35 Tiger 1. Apart from this last traumaic experience I thoroughly enjoyed this visit and will go again (I'll just be more wary on the way out ....... maybe!) Now not knowing anything about armour, I was wondering if anyone has built this kit and can warn of any pit falls or accuracy issues. I was pondering on enhancements, but it came with a bit of etch so is there anything else worth forking out on? Also paint wise, were the inside really gloss white? (obviously dirtied as applicable!). Just clearing the bench of a few bits then I may crack on with this. I've already done a Tamiya Churchill and an Italeri bedford QL truck thingy, I enjoyed the change but hoping I don't enjoy this one as I don't think my wallet (or shelf space) can take another genre! All information no matter how basic is appreciated. Cheers now Bob
moaning dolphin Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Just a quick dit to the above, the instructions say the external colour is RLM 79 sandgelb, this equates to Humbrol 62 (tan). Is this a good colour match or is it way off course, any other paints recommended? Not really got into acrylics but willing to give it a go. Cheers now Bob
Andy K Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Is this the one?; Link If so the basic colour is called Dunkel Gelb (Dark Yellow) and a good match is Humbrol 83 Ochre. For my German armour I tend to use lighter shades (such as Humbrol 94) as the weathering process makes the base colour darker. The interior colour is an Ivory colour, not white. The official name is Elfenbein RAL 1001. The floors would be either a red-brown of grey-green as a rough guide.
moaning dolphin Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Is this the one?;Link If so the basic colour is called Dunkel Gelb (Dark Yellow) and a good match is Humbrol 83 Ochre. For my German armour I tend to use lighter shades (such as Humbrol 94) as the weathering process makes the base colour darker. The interior colour is an Ivory colour, not white. The official name is Elfenbein RAL 1001. The floors would be either a red-brown of grey-green as a rough guide. Yes that is the one. Thanks for the link, that may prove useful in future. Ill probably end up as you do using a lighter colour for the body and do some weathering, I'm almost tempted to try out some chipping and paint effects as well, but that is for a later day! On that note what would be a good base colour, a dark metal or a rust colour? Thanks again Bob
daz greenwood Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) The Italeri Tiger I is nice I had one when it was first released. Edited January 18, 2011 by daz greenwood
Andy K Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 German armour was undercoated in red primer so you could use that as a base. For paint chipping though I usually brush paint a scratch using a lighter shade of the base coat, then in the middle of it put some very dark brown (Vallejo German Camo Black/Brown). You could also use a red primer colour for a not-so-deep scratch or even just leave the lighter base colour as a fresh surface scratch. That'll save undercoating the whole model in red primer
jimbuna Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Travelled down there from the north east twice 25+ years back and could never stop buying books in the shop....is there still a good selection?
thx6667 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 So priming german military stuff with Halfords red oxide primer would actually be a smart idea?
Tailgunner Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) So priming german military stuff with Halfords red oxide primer would actually be a smart idea? No because the German WWII armour was primed grey or brown, Bovington uses red oxide. Edited January 18, 2011 by Tailgunner
Derbyeomanry Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 The shop is like a toy shop now to cater for the masses - no decent specialist books or kits - nothing you cant get from the High street. Used to stock Accurate armour as I recall Neil.
daz greenwood Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 This link might help about German AFV primer colours: clicky
Derbyeomanry Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Took this inside the Tiger 2 engine compartment at Bovington a couple of years back. As far As far as I know its original Edited January 18, 2011 by Derbyeomanry
Andy K Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 No because the German WWII armour was primed grey or brown, Bovington uses red oxide. Er...it was red brown, RAL 3009 Oxidrot; Link Tony Greenland (a noted German WW2 Armour modeller) used Halfords red primer as it was a good match for the actual stuff.
General Jumbo Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I haven't been to Bovington since I was about twelve. I was taken there by my grandpa who at the tender age of 17 was a tank commander in the 1st Lothians Yeomanry during '44 - '45. I remember comparing the size of "his" Sherman Crab to the King Tiger and being in awe of it all. Another visit is definitely on the agenda for the next wee while.
thx6667 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Er...it was red brown, RAL 3009 Oxidrot; Link Tony Greenland (a noted German WW2 Armour modeller) used Halfords red primer as it was a good match for the actual stuff. Aha! That's what I was thinking, danke!
moaning dolphin Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Thanks again for the replies, there is alot of information there. I normally use halfords red primer on my ships below the water line so will be adapting that for this one. I'm not going to get any extra detail set, with the exception of maybe a new gun barrel. Just need to get rid of a few crappy planes off my desk then crack on with this one. I will eventually put it up on the WIP thread. Stay Tooned! Bob
ChrisITA Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 The hulls were primed red brown, the guns were primed a darkish grey (different heat resistant paint) If you're showing chips through zimmerit, the zimmerit is pale grey (like concrete) Chris
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