Phartycr0c Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hi Merv, That would be most useful. To the rescue again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Ok, not so much an update, more a statement of intent. Iv'e had a think. Because I have a Paragon Flaps and slats set for the big Tornado I am thinking of popping some staff into the cockpit and presenting the aircraft on a base at an angle as if just touched down. That means everything can hang loose and I can have the airbrakes and such out. what do we think? Edited January 22, 2011 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F111Fan Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Ok, not so much an update, more a statement of intent. Iv'e had a think. Because I have a Paragon Flaps and slats set for the big Tornado I am thinking of popping some staff into the cockpit and presenting the aircraft on a base at an angle as if just touched down. That means everything can hang loose and I can have the airbrakes and such out. what do we think? I love the idea-have fun doing the thrust reversers in the active position Awesome work as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hi Merv,That would be most useful. To the rescue again! PM Me your e-mail address & I'll send them right over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichT Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm a bit slow to spot this one too. It looks great so far - looking forward to seeing the next instalment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 ITS IN! so to speak, the cockpit, the wheel well and the extension plug. All in all it went in nicely however, there was a lot of hacking and filing to be done. The cockpit itself, I have kept to a minimum as most of the detail will be lost as the cockpit, I have decided, will be closed. The project itself will be my attempt at this scene The cockpit was sprayed, washed and drybrushed. and introducing the staff members, but they are for later. Next the wings got a bit of a hack, in preparation for all that lovely ? Paragon resin! Before After lying in a pile! TTFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) Ok not really much to update as todays wet weather modelling fest turned into more time spent assisting my two lads with their respective builds i.e this and this meaning bits and bobs got done on the Tornado. Since my last update I have mainly built the main structures of the aircraft i.e wings tail elevons and fuselage, The lh gun port is filled and sanded and the refuelling door has been scribed wings have been cut and prepped ready for the Paragon flaps and the "tarse" end has been extended and filled (yet to be rubbed down) Ive also included one of the Paragon wing gloves, although im not too sure about this as it sits proud of the fuselage although it is far better than the kit one. Ive also opened up the APU vent, this will be painted at the relevant point. Finally, Iv'e opened up the auxillary air doors on the intakes A little work required on the tail methinks. Under carriage is also done. Im using the white metal Scale Model conversions set due to the weight of the bird. The front strut is thankfully modeled with the oleo extended which will fit in great with my indented display. Next up is the "joining together" ceremony which will allow me then to get her "mr surfacer" prepped and into the paintshop. She will be carrying the large hindenburg tanks, four "skyflash" (sparrows) and four Aims, hence the requirement for metal legs. TTFN Edited February 13, 2011 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Out-F*ckin-standing. When are you hoping to finish? Wish I had got Meindert set, but hey ho. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 M8, iv'e been watching your conversion and your doing a fantastic job without the conversion set. In fact, the conversion is cheating in comparison to your scratch build...... Im not on a timescale really but I need to clear this for the Phantom build, assuming work doesnt get in the way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Nice of you to say. I'm trying to get mine finished by mid/end March. Model Club Model of the year comp early April and Scot Nats end of April. Then its onto my Herc before the Tonka build later in the year. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 OK Iv'e stopped being such a lazy a@se ive enlarged the openings to fit the Paragon wing loves flush..... much better, Phots to follow.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just thinking aloud (to myself) of your intended presentation - it's been rather a long time since I worked on Tornado F3's but, IIRC, on touchdown, the Thrust Reverers (TR) do not deploy until all three U/C legs touchdown and the WOW (Weight On Wheels) switch lets the TR's deploy. Cheers, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale85 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 wow nice work!! ciao Ale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just thinking aloud (to myself) of your intended presentation - it's been rather a long time since I worked on Tornado F3's but, IIRC, on touchdown, the Thrust Reverers (TR) do not deploy until all three U/C legs touchdown and the WOW (Weight On Wheels) switch lets the TR's deploy. Cheers, Brian Hi Brian, I thought that may be the case, thanks for the confirmation. I did think about it, but having since carefully watched Tonkas touching down, I havn't ever seen them deploy the buckets until the nosewheel is down. Besides, showing the TR buckets deployed, far far to complicated and rich for my blood. I will have the airbrakes out and flaps and slats dangling free. In any case, once the tr,s are cut from the exhaust part Revell provides, there is some serious scratch work to be done underneath and very very little left of the original part. Again the scratchbuilding of the engine bits underneath the buckets. a little complicated for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 You get them plans OK Mate? Were they of any use?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 You get them plans OK Mate? Were they of any use?.. Sorry bud, yes, very useful thanks. I am now clear on what remodelling needs to be done. Thanks again Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Hi Brian, I thought that may be the case, thanks for the confirmation. I did think about it, but having since carefully watched Tonkas touching down, I havn't ever seen them deploy the buckets until the nosewheel is down. Besides, showing the TR buckets deployed, far far to complicated and rich for my blood. I will have the airbrakes out and flaps and slats dangling free. In any case, once the tr,s are cut from the exhaust part Revell provides, there is some serious scratch work to be done underneath and very very little left of the original part. Again the scratchbuilding of the engine bits underneath the buckets. a little complicated for me. And I also think the Airbrakes would not be deployed. You could imagine the amount of exhaust that would impinge on an open set of airbrakes from the Thrust Reversers! As I remember it, the aircrew would always 'throw' the a/c onto the runway, to get the WOW switches to positively operate, with selection of the TR's set, (by rocking the throttles outboard), to deploy on touchdown when the WOW switches are made. If I had only retained my Training Notes from my Tornado days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooty Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I have never seen an F3 landing with the airbrakes out as has been said, the TR buckets are pre-armed for landing. Speaking as someone who has selected TR with the air brakes out I can tell you that the airbrakes will close (just about anyway) before the buckets deploy, creates a strange sensation in the cockpit as the jet wants to go backward and forward at the same time. This was done during engine tests as I'm not a pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Coming along nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Firmly down the airbrakes will stay (apply Yoda voice accordingly) Thanks all for putting me straight. Just got to sort out exactly how to mount said bird onto the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Ok a quick update while i wait for the filler to dry on the wing extensions! The now correctly seated wing gloves and open auxillary doors Plug was a little out on top so Iv'e had to blend it in a little, and the attempt to reshape the fuel tank area. Don't know if it's anywhere near right. Overall, underside Overall topside. Some rescribing needed then a through wash before blowing over with Mr surfacer to pick out any imperfections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Ok still plodding along with my F3. Shed loads of rubbing down and a couple of coats of mr surfacer and I think I may have this somewhere near. There are a couple of "wounds" still to do but its getting there. As you can see, the Paragon Flaps and slats have been completed. Once Im happy with her overall, Its some re scribing (never my strongest point) then orf to the paint shap. TTFN Edited February 27, 2011 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Now that's looking really nice! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degs Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Just seen this thread. Don't forget the 4 spoilers are up on landing for lift dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 Just seen this thread. Don't forget the 4 spoilers are up on landing for lift dump. Hi Degs, Yes I clocked that but looking at the kit, to "dig out" the spoilers would be a little beyond my scratching capabilities. To do it properly would need a major re structuring of the wing involving the removal of the molded spoilers and replacing them with the proper recesses for the spoilers to sit in. In addition, the Paragon set relies heavily on the top half of the wing structure to hang off. Whilst I' m sure it is possible to depict the spoilers deployed, I'm a big scaredy cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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