Phartycr0c Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I will be mostly converting one of these to one of these Probably somewhat predictably she will be finished as ZE887 of 11 sqdn in 2005 90th anniversary scheme. She will be the first of my 11 sqdn jet project which will consist of an F6 Lightning, this F3 Tornado and a current Typhoon all 1/32. anyhow, I promise I will be a bit more regular with the updates. Edited January 14, 2011 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pharty is on a Tonka fest again So time for the Bexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 omg!! good luck noe i have a scrapped ecr in the lost if you need any spares but i cant get it for a week or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverburn Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) Oooh, I was gonna try to see if I could blag your skyshadow pod, but it's an IDS! Awww... I'll find me one yet so I can complete mine! Looking forward to being thoroughly upstaged in quality and modelling skill in the meantime ...front row centre for me please... Interesting wee project. I was planning on doing a similar line up of my Harrier, Tornado and my Eurofighter, in a "Modern tools of RAF" theme. Just need Trumpet to get a wiggle on with a 1:32 GR7 or something, so I don't have to look with distain at my AV8B What? the RAF cancelled the Harrier part? Sorry, I can't hear you..<sticks fingers in ears>....la, la, la, la.... Edited January 14, 2011 by silverburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Oh, my! This is going to be tasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooty Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If you need any reference stuff just ask, I can pretty much guarantee I can get, or already have anything you might need to build an F3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hurry up and get it built then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gibson Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hi Pharty, What's that resin you're using? Cheers, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hi Pharty,What's that resin you're using? Cheers, Dave. Hi Dave, I was fortunate enough to lay my hands on one of Meindert de Vreeze's resin conversion kits. It was a limited run and has been sat in my stash for a good couple of years. A little bit of hacking and filing of the relatively soft plastic later and this emerges. one gets the impression of what this bird will look like. one decision I do have to make is wether to smack in the paragon Flaps and slats set. If I do Ill aim at doing a "touch down" dio where the aircraft has literally just landed. If not just having the aircraft at rest, in which nothing hangs loose and the rbf tags will be in place with the cockpit open. Decisions decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverburn Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 You'll probably think I'm strange...but I actually prefer the look of the "stubby" nosed Tonka - this long nosed one looks...weird. To me at least - each to their own etc etc. Still - kudos on hacking everything up - you're braver than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 AH yes but wait until the air intakes and stuff are on, it wont look THAT bad I can assure you. Thats assuming I get stuff right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeds Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I could be wrong, but the nose appears to be upside down to my eyes ! Gonna be watching this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Interesting project but I would imagine a lot of work. How are you planning to do intake tunnels?, its a shame the kit provides not trunking. I've got a large GR4 project slowly progressing on the bench, so I maybe able to provide some hints on missing details on the IDS kit Shaun. Edited January 16, 2011 by Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobinsonh Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi, Nice work, be aware that that funny resin stuff is an absolute pig to fill, sand and get a good surface. If you find away around that then let me know. I took a different route and used plastic card to replace the parts from the conversion - but used them as a master. The nose came from the Revel F2 kit but modified to match the conversion nose. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...c=49015&hl= The only reason I have stopped is that I am waiting for Aires to release their resin undercarriage bays as the kits ones are very basic. With all the scratch building needed on this one I did not fancy doing the U/C bays as well. Not sure how much detail you want to go into but if you use the blackbox F3 cockpit the side console layout is not 100% accurate for an F3 (at least not for the final version based on a number of photographs on the web etc). Will be following with interest. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The only reason I have stopped is that I am waiting for Aires to release their resin undercarriage bays as the kits ones are very basic. With all the scratch building needed on this one I did not fancy doing the U/C bays as well. Will be following with interest. Regards I'm the same with my GR4, I've got the new cockpit and exhusts but I'm waiting for the U/C bays to be released than I can really get cracking. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Looks like an interesting build ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Crumbs - nearly missed this one! Great start!!! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 I could be wrong, but the nose appears to be upside down to my eyes !Gonna be watching this one. It Is! I wanted to see what it looked like Hee hee. I can assure you that I wont make that mistake when it comes to glue it! (I hope) measure twice, cut once, thats what my dad always told me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Like your trick..One I will definitely want to watch !! Houston.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Not really much of an update, just to say that after what seemed like an age of cutting, sawing filing and sanding, im left with this What you are looking at is the replacement fuselage underside with the recesses for the skyflash missiles (adapted aim120's in this build btw). In addition the fuselage extension plug was made to fit. This is all obviously before filler and is as close as i can make it given the state of the resin, which brings me on to the next point. When I bought this kit off Meidert some two years or more ago, he was at pains to point out that the rubber moulds had reached the end of their life and as such he wasn't prepared to guarantee the quality of the resin parts. With that caviat, I knew possibly what iIwas getting in to until now. Having completed the fuselage cutting it was time to start on the cockpit. The kit provided new panels bulkheads and ejection seat heads. On close inspection, my eyesight allowing, I noted the following. rear cockpit bulkhead has a chunk missing out of the top curve of the panel. there are a few pits where they shouldn't be on the centre bulkhead and crt panels. nothing major though, the big problem in my opinion is the front panel I feel it is unuseable and but for the tiny difference between the GR and the F3 I think I will be using the Kit part. It sounds like Im having a go at Meinderts work, Far from it! he was brave nough to put the work into this conversion and by heck I will do my utmost to get the best out of what I have got, as, lets face it , it is the only game in town. I want to complete the build as a tribute to the F3 which is finished finally in March this year. Oh and I stuck the huge fin together.! Edited January 19, 2011 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Before you go any further, just though I'd point out that the spine was not increased at the point the conversion provides. It was done just behind the canopy hinge points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi Blacktjet, Im not entirely sure what you mean in terms of the starting point for the extension. I appreciate that the conversion may not be completely accurate, however if you were to trace a line right round the fuselage from the vertical cuts, it would pass roughly through the hinge points. The extension at the back of the canopy is to allow the resin a little "purchase". Is that the issue you are referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi Blacktjet, Im not entirely sure what you mean in terms of the starting point for the extension. I appreciate that the conversion may not be completely accurate, however if you were to trace a line right round the fuselage from the vertical cuts, it would pass roughly through the hinge points. The extension at the back of the canopy is to allow the resin a little "purchase". Is that the issue you are referring to? Hi, hope these pictures help. If you increase the spine at the point that the conversion prvides, the plan shape will be wrong. Also the extension should give the spine a slight 'kink' in side profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Yep, with you now... A little filling and re profiling required methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Al, I've found some F-3 profile plans on my PC if you need them. Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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