mrvr6 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just got me a 1/144 B1B Rockwell and have an A380 in the stash, looking forward to this big time ab1380b? rolls off the tonugeu dont it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basosz Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Couldn't find a decent (or rather... cheap enough) Lancaster at Saturday's show but I did find a PB4 Y-2 Privateer which will do quite nicely. a six engined Catalina with a HUUUUUGE wingspan and some other bits of the Privateer transplanted to the Cat. Should look big when done I think I'm gonna do it in Dutch colours like I did the Twin Corsair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifer54 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Couldn't find a decent (or rather... cheap enough) Lancaster at Saturday's show but I did find a PB4 Y-2 Privateer which will do quite nicely. a six engined Catalina with a HUUUUUGE wingspan and some other bits of the Privateer transplanted to the Cat. Should look big when done I think I'm gonna do it in Dutch colours like I did the Twin Corsair. Sounds great! Will look forward to seeing that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basosz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I just looked at the start date of this GB... and it's a bloody year from now ! And this while my idea just keeps growing and solidifying in my head. that's gonna be a LONG year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 You can always build this idea now and do another for the GB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Someone should have a go at something like this (someone other than me that is, im still relativly sane ) Edited November 19, 2011 by AndyP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Someone should have a go at something like this (someone other than me that is, im still relativly sane ) Is that some type of stealthy design Andy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Well whos going to be expecting an Inverse aircraft carrier to be deploying flying boats over the desert??? they'd never see it coming, not in a million years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 i too cant wait to get going with this, and i dont suppose there is any harm with doing a few whiffs while we wait, would help wet out appetite whats not to like, im itching to do my hunter in a special scheme that i still am keeping underwraps as i want it to be a suprise but im itching to share it with the bm world. another new idea ive had was inspired by listening to a guy in the raf who was on vc10s in the gulf saying that the vulcan could have made a contribution as t could have carried i think 14 lazer guided weapons in the bomb bay and 2 on each wing. imagine it a pink vulcan with black radome, shark mouth and eyes now that would look pretty meanaceing and awsome, i think. with some cool female art on the tail. with bombs in fact im gonna do that definatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I'm in with an RAF Spitfire mk.1 September 1940. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifer54 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I'm in with an RAF Spitfire mk.1 September 1940.Trevor I'm eager to see what sort of whiffery you'll apply to that. . .It sounds quite intriguing as a whif. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I'm eager to see what sort of whiffery you'll apply to that. . .It sounds quite intriguing as a whif. . . It'll be the boggest of bog standard mk.1's............ Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvr6 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It'll be the boggest of bog standard mk.1's............Trevor in a what if group build? no sidewinders or avon engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) in a what if group build?no sidewinders or avon engines? no, just the 8 x 0.303 Brownings and mk.1 eyeball with a Merlin III up front as per usual. Trevor Edited November 10, 2011 by Max Headroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvr6 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 no, just the 8 x 0.303 Brownings and mk.1 eyeball with a Merlin III up front as per usual.Trevor so why are you entering it into a what if groupbuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 so why are you entering it into a what if groupbuild? it's parked in my alternate universe outside the terminal at Templehof Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvr6 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 it's parked in my alternate universe outside the terminal at TemplehofTrevor care to extrapolate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 care to extrapolate? The back story is in pre production but supposes that WWII never happened, so what did the RAF do with those Spiitfires it didn't pass to France, Turkey or Estonia? Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre_days Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Just saw this today, I'll officially recommit to the Valkyrie B Mk. 1 I wanted to do for the original What-If GB, but with a much better-detailed kit to work with: http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=CHC2015 I'm already planning to buy four of these (historical prototype markings and whiffs of a B-70A in SAC natural metal, RAF Valkyrie Mk. 1 and B-70C in current-era Gunship Gray). I'll probably try to do at least one other build for this GB, but the big question is what. 1970s-current schemes for the CF-14, CF-15 and CF-20 in Canadian Forces/RCAF (so nice to be able to say that in the present tense again) markings are high on the list, but I have a lot of other F-20 based ideas and the thought of a photo reconnaissance P-69 has a certain appeal (on the premise that since the US Army had little need for interceptors in WWII, the P-69 might have found its niche as a high-speed, high-altitude recce bird...and it would look good in Haze Blue with invasion stripes, pinup noseart and a slew of mission marks...) Edited December 4, 2011 by Sabre_days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre_days Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 The back story is in pre production but supposes that WWII never happened, so what did the RAF do with those Spiitfires it didn't pass to France, Turkey or Estonia?Trevor Sounds like a very interesting idea. I'm also contemplating a whiff of the Airfix Spitfire I, but focusing on export markings. The thought of whiffing the Spitfire IX on the premise of Ireland not having stayed neutral in WWII (IAC markings with a kill tally and invasion stripes) is also on the "possibilities" list, along with the Seafire XVII as a USN F1S-2, maybe with Operation Downfall invasion stripes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Some great ideas, I'll try and have a tidy up at some point an bring the list up to date, still, plenty of time yet! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 ...cant wait to get going with this, and i dont suppose there is any harm with doing a few whiffs while we wait, would help wet out appetite... itching to do my hunter in a special scheme that i still am keeping underwraps as i want it to be a suprise but im itching to share it with the bm world. Go for it Rob! Perhaps we need an inspiration gallery of previous What If's to get us all in the mood once this one kicks off? another new idea ive had was inspired by listening to a guy in the raf who was on vc10s in the gulf saying that the vulcan could have made a contribution as t could have carried i think 14 lazer guided weapons in the bomb bay and 2 on each wing. imagine it a pink vulcan with black radome, shark mouth and eyes now that would look pretty meanaceing and awsome, i think. with some cool female art on the tail. with bombs in fact im gonna do that definatly Ooh now this does sound good! The back story is in pre production but supposes that WWII never happened, so what did the RAF do with those Spiitfires it didn't pass to France, Turkey or Estonia? Sounds interesting Trevor. Look forward to reading the full back-story once you get going. Just saw this today, I'll officially recommit to the Valkyrie B Mk. 1 I wanted to do for the original What-If GB, but with a much better-detailed kit to work with...I'm already planning to buy four of these (historical prototype markings and whiffs of a B-70A in SAC natural metal, RAF Valkyrie Mk. 1 and B-70C in current-era Gunship Gray). I'll probably try to do at least one other build for this GB, but the big question is what. 1970s-current schemes for the CF-14, CF-15 and CF-20 in Canadian Forces/RCAF (so nice to be able to say that in the present tense again) markings are high on the list, but I have a lot of other F-20 based ideas and the thought of a photo reconnaissance P-69 has a certain appeal (on the premise that since the US Army had little need for interceptors in WWII, the P-69 might have found its niche as a high-speed, high-altitude recce bird...and it would look good in Haze Blue with invasion stripes, pinup noseart and a slew of mission marks...) Not one but three interesting options for the Valkrie alone and the PR-69 sounds a great idea as well. Sounds like a very interesting idea. I'm also contemplating a whiff of the Airfix Spitfire I, but focusing on export markings. The thought of whiffing the Spitfire IX on the premise of Ireland not having stayed neutral in WWII (IAC markings with a kill tally and invasion stripes) is also on the "possibilities" list, along with the Seafire XVII as a USN F1S-2, maybe with Operation Downfall invasion stripes... Then you come up with another three great ideas. You're going to have a hard time choosing which of these to do first - leave some ideas for the rest of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre_days Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Not one but three interesting options for the Valkrie alone and the PR-69 sounds a great idea as well. Thanks. One stumbling block with the P-69 idea is that if I did that I'd also want to build a second in plain OD/NG camo with just national insignia (my usual impulse when modeling unbuilt design studies is to build it as designed, in generic markings to convey the fact that it is an unbuilt project and show it in the most "factual" form possible). I'd only want to do a more "out there" whiff if I'd also build the subject in that manner. Which wouldn't be a problem if the Anigrand kit weren't fairly expensive and hard to find (Rollmodels and Nostalgic Plastic are sold out, and although the kit's page is still accessible via Google on Anigrand's site and has an "add to cart" button, it doesn't seem to be in their catalogue anymore, which seems ominous). After I pay off this month's credit card bill, I may try ordering two, though... The bigger problem is that the Anigrand kit has the wing planform shown in a fairly widely-reproduced three-view, which I think dates back to the Sixties, that shows a constant-chord section near the root: http://www.anigrand.com/AA2069_XP-69.htm Several posters in the P-69 thread on secretprojects.co.uk seemed dubious about what function it could serve with no dihedral change or obvious relationship to flaps or control surfaces. My knowledge of aerodynamics is limited to private pilot ground school level material, so I can't really comment much on its possible utility, but the large-scale wind tunnel model had a continuous taper as shown in this drawing: http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=6639 I'd be inclined to modify the wing to represent that configuration: I have seen some primary source documents that show the constant-chord section, but not knowing their date relative to the model and lacking any evidence to the contrary I'm inclined to take the wind tunnel model as the most "definitive" known configuration (besides, I think the steady taper looks better ). Doesn't look like too great a chore to trim them down, though. I may just go through with this one, if only I can get the kit... A plausible service designation is another issue, as the entire "F" series is taken up to the F-15 Reporter, which post-dates WWII. I'm inclined to appropriate the Mosquito's F-8 designation and either bump everything afterwards up by one or else say that the USAAF didn't use PR Mosquitoes (or at least not enough to allocate a designation) in this timeline because of the recce P-69's availability. Then you come up with another three great ideas. You're going to have a hard time choosing which of these to do first - leave some ideas for the rest of us! Thanks! At the rate I build it'll be a long time before I get to some of these, if ever. I will, I promise. The IAC Spit might even spin into a small "IAC at War" series, though now that I think of it a rapid wartime expansion might make a name change to Irish Air Force logical... And I think I made a gaffe with the designation for my US Navy Seafire whiff: FS would never be amended to F1S, particularly without a second design from the same manufacturer, so it would be FS-2 (FS-1 having historically been assigned to a Seafire -presumably a Mk. II- borrowed for evaluation, to my knowledge the Mk. XV evaluated later never got a USN designation and I believe it was postwar and therefore outside the timeline for a "46" whiff, therefore -2 would be the next version). Edited December 8, 2011 by Sabre_days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre_days Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) i too cant wait to get going with this, and i dont suppose there is any harm with doing a few whiffs while we wait, would help wet out appetite whats not to like, im itching to do my hunter in a special scheme that i still am keeping underwraps as i want it to be a suprise but im itching to share it with the bm world.another new idea ive had was inspired by listening to a guy in the raf who was on vc10s in the gulf saying that the vulcan could have made a contribution as t could have carried i think 14 lazer guided weapons in the bomb bay and 2 on each wing. imagine it a pink vulcan with black radome, shark mouth and eyes now that would look pretty meanaceing and awsome, i think. with some cool female art on the tail. with bombs in fact im gonna do that definatly Great idea! I look forward to seeing that one... That reminds me, musn't ignore the Dragon/Cyber-Hobby YB-49's whiff potential... Edited December 8, 2011 by Sabre_days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm In! With an f-23 1/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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