Bobs_Buckles Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 What do you think of the paintjob Bob?I'm half thinking it's a bag of s***e (too dark a shade of IJN) and am going to respray it. The lazy part says sod it. Opinions? Cheers, Nick Nick, It's only a bag of s***e if you ain't happy with it. I ain't one for saying "YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT LIKE THAT" brigade. The only thing I can say is that I won't be chipping the crap out of mine. Late war Raiden's would not have been in that condition and chances are the ground crews would of kept them in good nick considering the fact that they were all on home defense duty and not ravaged by sea going conditions. But, I could be wrong. Its just MHO. Good luck mate. kamikaze Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 Thanks for that guys. Yeah, I'm not into JMN either, but it is a little dark and I'm still deciding if will bug me or not. Silly the things that piddle us off eh? I like the idea of an overspray Gary. I may do that. How would I get around covering the salt chipped undercoat though? A very light overspray? I thought most of the late war Raidens would have been scruffy Bob. The one I'm building was from the 302 flying group, based at Atsugi airbase. There's a link here to some images of surrendered Jacks, and they look pretty scruffy. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/jap...d144-ed146.html Cheers me dears, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) Nick, Sorry mate. I would agree with you that they might be covered in mud, dust and s***e but I doubt they would of been flaky in the paint dept. But, that is my opinion and not necessarily the whole truth. What I find funny, is the fact that twoWW1 builders are doing their first Japanese planes and those planes both happen to be Radiens... What are the odds off that? hehe The Divine Wind Bob Just seen some pics of Raidens and some are flaky in the paint dept... Ah well! you never stop learning... Edited July 14, 2007 by Bobs_Buckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 Spooky that ain't it Bob? Oh well, let's agree to disagree about the weathering issue eh? I'm going to chip the poo-poo out of mine though. How's yours coming along? Got any progress pics? Cheers, Nick (Hungover this morning from a dinner party. There's wind here too, but it ain't divine...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Spooky that ain't it Bob?Oh well, let's agree to disagree about the weathering issue eh? I'm going to chip the poo-poo out of mine though. How's yours coming along? Got any progress pics? Cheers, Nick (Hungover this morning from a dinner party. There's wind here too, but it ain't divine...) I'm starting to agree with you. Just seen some pics and they aint as shiny new as I thought. The cockpit is done and the fuselage is closed. Want to get the wing on and start cleaning up the seams. No pics at the mo cos I'm building this one in Hannant's London. Will try and take pics soon. I can't take full credit for the work done so far. I have had much help and guidance from Vince & Gary in the shop... Bless 'em! Cheers mate. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 They all come round sooner or later... Hell, even a nice shiny new Raiden looks nice Bob. Seen Bill Lachance's one over on ARC? Tasty. My Raiden and the colour scheme is a funny business! Just before I was going to hit the sack, I wondered what a bit of rubbing down with fine grade sandpaper would do, and blow me, it's lightened the whole thing up to the point where I'm really happy with the colour now. Furthermore, as there are some lighter and darker patches it looks sun faded (at least in this light!) Will post some pics up tomorrow! Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hey guys, I had a bit of a screw up with the leading edges on the wings of the Raiden. The kit was primed with Tamiya acrylic silver, and then I sprayed yellow onto the edges for the bands. (I salt chipped before then by the way). I then masked off the yellow, and sprayed the green on. However, the masking was a bit iffy. I left some sprayed silver tape on by mistake, left a ridge along the wing from the yellow spray, made a custom mix of IJN paint and the reserve dried up, the bands looked crap, etc etc, and this evening I got wee weed off with the kit and rubbed the leading edges down with sandpaper and a little thinner. How can I salvage this? I like the overall finish of the plane, as it's going to be a heavily weathered Jap, but what I want to do is spray the leading edges green again and then have the yellow identifying stripes. Any pointers or an order of steps (eg spray green first, then yellow) greatly appreciated. Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Nick, I always spray a gloss clear coat over the areas I have sprayed then mask on that. Allow at least a day before you start laying tape on it. I hope this helps Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Made some progress on the Raiden. I thought the paint job on the rest of the kit was ok, but colour matching the leading edges proved to be a real headache, so I just resprayed the whole bloody thing, this time using a mixture of Tamiya IJN and white acrylics. The out of jar IJN was just TOO dark. Anyway, I know I should have sprayed the leading edges first, but getting bored with my lack of momentum, I slapped the decals on it last night and gave it a few coats of Klear (hence the shine!). Tamiya decals are lovely, but the orange lightning bolts were a bit of a sweetheart, and wrinkled, even with a drowning of Klear, so I had to rip them a bit in places. I'm going to weather it quite heavily, so it'll all be ok in the end. It's starting to take shape now (at last). Next step is the painting the leading edges orangey/yellow, the undercarriage bays that funny translucent blue/green, do the tyres, and then it's just assembly, weathering and a satin coat. Almost there. Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybee Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Hi Nick I prefered it chipped. Nice job so far, I like it Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Thanks Paul. It will be chipped (or at least a combo of silver paint and pencil). I liked it before too. It's just that I couldn't get the paint match corrections right, so a respray had to happen. It was that or the wall! Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Nick, We will be able to compare Raidens, as mine is the same livery as yours.... DOH! Nice job mate. Bob Von Karzee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miduppergunner Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 That's nice - soon you will be able to start the RE8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 Here's a shot with the wing edges redone, and with the prop and undercarraige on. I decided against doing the atoake (or whatever) blue, as I didn't have the paint and couldn't be arsed to go out and buy any more. On to the weathering and paint chipping tomorrow. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palacefan Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 VINEGAR first, silly! Otherwise the salt gets washed away At last someone who understands the science of adding salt and vinegar to chips, i thought i was the only one Nick, Dont take this the wrong way, but it is so nice to see that i am not the only one who forgets to take tape off and dont make notes of mixed paint etc... The difference between us though is that you can save yours, it is looking great. As for the chipping, i thought allJapaneseww2 planes were all scruffy due to the crap paint. And towards the end of the war i thought that just got worse due to lack of resources. I have a question for you. If ever i have to spray an anti glare panel, it is one of the last things i do over the top of the base colour. What was the reason for spraying yours first? Cant wait to see the chips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan the rabbit Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) Cheers Wayne! Can't remember why I sprayed the anti glare panel first. It was ages ago. I think it was down to something stupid like "If I spray the glare panel first, I only have to mask off a small area when I spray the green, whereas if I spray green first, I'll have to mask off more area to protect from overspray". Or maybe not. As I sometimes leave tape on, and don't make a note of my paint mixtures, I don't exactly always follow a methodical approach. Apparently the home defence Raidens were not as beaten up as other planes that had been in longer service and exposed to more elements. I'll still weather it, but not excessively. I think a lot of people go way overboard flaking/chipping/silveringJapaneseplanes, and the results don't always look convincing. Will get to work on it tonight. I just gave her an all over coat of Klear this morning, so am waiting for that to dry. Cheers, Nick Edited August 27, 2007 by dylan the rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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