steveo3002 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 hey all newbie here just back into modeling and want to spray a 14" long model car , ive found a badger 200-3 kit that i was given as a teenager and never used . will this be reasonbly okay to spray a car that size ? it states it has the meduim needle that does 1.6mm -38mm fan i realise its not the greatest airbrush around , but i dont have the funds to buy another one so would like to use this any hints or tips for its use would be great ..i have a full size diy compressor to hook it up to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstore Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 It will probably work just fine. Practice a bit on some scrap plastic first to get a feeling for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedtaylor Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) hey all newbie herejust back into modeling and want to spray a 14" long model car , ive found a badger 200-3 kit that i was given as a teenager and never used . will this be reasonbly okay to spray a car that size ? it states it has the meduim needle that does 1.6mm -38mm fan i realise its not the greatest airbrush around , but i dont have the funds to buy another one so would like to use this any hints or tips for its use would be great ..i have a full size diy compressor to hook it up to The Badger 200 is one of the best airbrushes for modellers even with 14 inch cars. Your big problem is learning to spray gloss paint, first you need the paint very thin and as you will need the needle fairly wide open for a model that size you will need a mask and good ventilation. you need to mount the body shell on an old wire coat hanger so you can handle the model while spraying, lay on very thin layers in a room with a temperature of 65-75 degrees and by the time you have the first coat on, where you started will be ready for a second coat. You will need to practice a lot to get it right so don't be dissappointed at your first try. PS keep your air pressure down to 20-25 PSI max Ted Edited December 26, 2010 by tedtaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Will cover ok, but practice on something else first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Tango Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 You'll be OK, I use a Badger 200 along side my H & S Evolution and it still does an excellent job, you'll just need to practice a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalguru Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Painting cars is utterly dependent on choice of paint. You have to be very careful if you use acrylics, but enamels will dry hard, can be carefully flatted back, and polished to a great shine, or just finished with a very thin wet coat. The airbrush is just the means of delivering the accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 i was thinking tamiya acrylic paints...beacuse i can buy them over the counter and they dry fast i actualy want a low sheen metalic silver, i will need to mask it and paint on a fine stripe afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalguru Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 i was thinking tamiya acrylic paints...beacuse i can buy them over the counter and they dry fasti actualy want a low sheen metalic silver, i will need to mask it and paint on a fine stripe afterwards In that case, you want to be applying very thin coats, and allowing each coat to really dry (hairdryer perhaps?) between coats, and leave for a long while before attempting to polish etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 thanks all can these badgers handle cellulose paints? ive got a few cans and lots of thinners in stock (wont use it on plastic ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Yes, but use a suitable primer first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) what would i have to pay to change to the smaller or larger needle set ? and can i convert from suction to a gravity pot? any suggestions for a seller for either Edited January 5, 2011 by steveo3002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Shesto are ths importers, the spares for your brush: http://www.shesto.co.uk/Airbrushing-Badger...oduct_info.html Not sure if you can change or not, drop them a line and they will advise you. You can't change to a gravity feed, you can put a 7ml open cup that fits in the botttom of the brush. They do have a tendancy to spill paint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 right thanks had a little go today...already fed up cleaning out the pot for when i need spray a pin head size bit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 That was my problem, I was sold one by a retailer at a model engineering show when I started back modelling Just painting model cars, so 5mins painting and 30 mins cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 yeah i think i need the little cup where i have a few tins of paint , i dont want to thin a whole tin to put in the pot , or if it needs mixing for a certain shade , with the little pot i can put a couple of brush fulls in for small bits is the importer always cheapest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 yeah i think i need the little cupwhere i have a few tins of paint , i dont want to thin a whole tin to put in the pot , or if it needs mixing for a certain shade , with the little pot i can put a couple of brush fulls in for small bits is the importer always cheapest? With the small cup I'd use a pipette to just put a few drops in there, remember the end of th paint tube needs to be covered to suck the paint up into the airbrush. Not sure who is the cheapest for this item, the cup has always been relatively expensive. I think I paid £7 for one about 15 years ago, I think they are about a tenner now. Worth having a look on ebay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rishi Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hi Steve, I use a Badger 150 medium needle. As Paul says its take time to clean. I use the 1/4 oz gravity cup, carefully partially filled. The 200 is good as its a single action internal mix brush. There are large needle for 200 u have to change the head assy too. U can buy a extra bottle for cleaning. watch out for the head spray regulator for paint build while sparying for long periods. Clean inbetween to avoid drop splatters. Cheers, rishi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHIL B Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hi Steve,I use a Badger 150 medium needle. As Paul says its take time to clean. I use the 1/4 oz gravity cup, carefully partially filled. The 200 is good as its a single action internal mix brush. There are large needle for 200 u have to change the head assy too. U can buy a extra bottle for cleaning. watch out for the head spray regulator for paint build while sparying for long periods. Clean inbetween to avoid drop splatters. Cheers, rishi Hi Steve, I use a Badger 200 with the 1/4oz side cup. I made a lid for it from plastic card in two laminations. One is a push fit into the rim of the cup and the top lamination is larger than the rim so I can get it off. I've drilled a smal hole at the edge through both layers to allow air to enter. This brush was a Christmas gift when I was 14 and that was a long time ago. Until I explained further, my friends couldn't understand why my parents had given me a hairbrush for Christmas... Anyway it has served me well although like Trigger's broomstick its had a couple of head and needle replacements plus the seals in the air valve assembly seem to swell up and block the airflow after a few months in the box. I'm sure there are better and more efficient airbrushes out there but this one suits me and my pocket just fine. Hannants have the 1/4oz colour cup for £9.60. Badger 200 colour cup @ Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo3002 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 heh got mine as a teenager , didnt really get on with canned air so it didnt get used i thought i might make a lid too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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