marty_hopkirk Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Just some quotes from Moebius that you may have seen but might clear up some questions asked.Same size as Aurora - No bogus atomic engines - no interior - More accurate wings - corrected engine exhaust shapes - overall better details - basically an all new kit based on the Aurora... the real shooting miniatures for the movie were mostly smooth with much of the surface detail portrayed by paint not engraved details - the plan is for the final Moebius model to be faithful to the shooting models and it will not have engraved panel lines that were never on the actual shooting models-Only the engraved lines that were present on the shooting model are planned for out kit.. Plan for now is to have the kit available 1st qtr 2011 to much cost and too little return on investment in Discovery, Aires or the Pod... @ this date Orion will be the end of the line for us. As we see it, there are too many ways to spend the same tooling and development money to produce much better results for us today. This could change at some point in the future but I wouldn't count on that. If Discovery is a "must Have" for you let me suggest that you start exploring resin kits as I don't see it anywhere on our future projects list. As you state, this is a 13" kit, there's no amount of huge detail that can be included in something like this. I give up, time for me to keep off the boards for a while. Some of this has gotten so silly it's almost hard to believe. It's a plastic kit, in a very small scale. It will never be perfect, but it's the best styrene Orion that's been out. I'm not going to argue the point when everyone is an "expert" on it. Have fun with it all! All of this reported further back up this thread. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurger190 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Here are some pictures of two Airfix Orion spacecraft which I built some time ago. I added parts from the Airfix Space Shuttle kit as can be seen. I know that the film was supposed to depict an atomic powered spacecraft but I don't think that any commercial company would be allowed to fly such craft especially after the real space shuttle broke up while re-entering the atmosphere over the USA. therefore I chose to make them chemically powered. I also chose to streamline the area around the side windows and to make them circular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Interior detail and decals released http://www.tsdsinc.com/index_files/SPACECLIPPER.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 AJAM are going to release a decal sheet as well. Marty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) Cult is now shipping the Orion. His price is $22 (£13) plus shipping - it will be interesting to see how the price translates when it lands on this side of the Atlantic. At that that price I have gone for three. I note AJA are making a booster set for it, I know it's not cannon but it looks cool. http://ajamodels.webs.com/apps/webstore/pr...ts/show/2157893 Marty... Edited February 19, 2011 by marty_hopkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 As well as shipping Orion, Cult has a review up now: http://culttvman.com/main/?p=15924#more-15924 Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Adam Johnson's designed decals are available via JBOT and include as well the cannon Pan Am ones: TWA, BOAC, NASA, JAL, SAS American, United and Qantas. http://www.jbot.ca/space/orion3.shtml Marty... Edited March 4, 2011 by marty_hopkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Thanks f' t'link, Marty. I like the idea of the BOAC and KLM ones. Thinking of KLM led me indirectly to Braniff, as I have some old Airfix Big Orange Jumbo decals going spare that I could use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) My three Orion's arrived courtesy of Cult a few days back, apologies about being a bit tardy in posting anything - I have busy with other 'things' of late. The first thing that struck me was how small the box is in comparison to other Moebius kits, the Aurora box athough was a different aspect ratio was larger. Moebius future emphasis appears to be on smaller kits. A cursory check against my references looks good. Although the fuselage profile does not kick-up just behind the flight deck. It is a kit of few parts - counted 21 excluding the stand which are curiously numbered 45 and 46. Possibly indicating the kit was slated to have more parts at one time. The engine section and the glazed parts come thoughtfully wrapped in a protective wrap. I do like the predominantly smooth nature of the kit which allows it to be canon to the filming miniature. It also allows those who wish, to either scribe or draw the panel lines on - although the decal is cool. Note, the Pan Am decal is NOT included. It's a very good kit and would appear fundamentally accurate with lots of scope. However, my view is the Stargazer is still the most accurate kit of Orion out of the box. I guess there will be those who might gripe with the UK RRP of twenty nine spondulaks for a relatively small kit with few parts. Given Cult's price converts to £13 and even with international post come in at well under £20. ...anyway here is what one gets, the box. On opening the lid. Note the large decal sheet and instructions are "bent-in". The contents of the box spread out. Note the Aurora styled stand. The contents with the aftermarket bits and bobs I have accumulated. Shed and TDSC decals. Paragrafix etch (which is surprisingly large) and Easy LED. The front fuselage section, placed on top of the large decal sheet. A top view of the large wing piece. The wing piece flipped and the rear fuselage section as it arrive with the engine insert. The two upper wing parts - note these are smooth as most of the kit is. The large decal sheet. My view is this will excellent and with a fine mist over with the primary colour(s) it will give a look faithful to the filming miniature. I don't know when I'll make a start on Orion, as the Moonbus has stalled of late and I would like to push on with that first. Marty... Edited March 19, 2011 by marty_hopkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Looks very nice - thanks for the photos and appraisal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 There are some VERY interesting images of Orion on Ian Walsh's site: http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/detail/windscreen%20detail.jpg http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/detail/windscreen.jpg I can't recall seeing this external shot of the flight deck set before, very revealing. http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/detail/winds...l%20%281%29.jpg A close up showing the detail around the flight deck area of the fuselage - the Stargazer kit is the only one that tries to replicate this profile correctly. http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/ORION%203%20...dio%20model.jpg http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/ORION%203%20.../orion%20st.jpg http://www.planet3earth.co.uk/ORION%203%20...test%20shot.jpg This his res image demonstrates clearly that the filming miniature had really quite a smooth finish. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer* Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi Marty I have just started my build... details seen here http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/viewto...c&start=120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Fascinating stuff Ian, "howsabouts" posting pictures here of you progress No sure when I'll make a start on mine - I must really dig into the Moobus first. BTW your interior kit goes together like a dream. Marty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Yes, please post them here as the SSM thread has already dropped off. I got this kit last week as a Review model for IPMS/USA. I did order the Pan Am decals from Cult and they should be here this week. Since it is a review kit I will probably go ahead and use the kit decals for the paneling so I can report how that goes. Planning on starting this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'll see if we can grab one for review ASAP if not sooner It's been out a while now, it would be nice to have a front page review. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 It's been out a while now, it would be nice to have a front page review.Marty... Sadly it didn't happen Care to review yours for the good of the Sci-Fi lovers & stir my jealousy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Could do if you want. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Bonsai Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Not everybody's medium but maybe you could use it for s plastic card version (also has done the Aries, Discovery and the pod)? http://uhu02.way-nifty.com/blogpapercraft_...on-bus-187.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Kesterton Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Some really good links and pics on this thread - thanks to everyone who posted. Managed to purchase this kit in the US and will find this thread very useful once I get around to building mine. anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Atkinson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Hi marty! Thanks for the vote of confidence - allbeit several months ago. Enjoying the correspondance and the photographs which keep popping up. Just for reference - the studio drawings of which I had copies all those years ago - differed greatly from the model which was produced. Harry Lange's original drawings which he shared with me had a much more angular feel to them - the modelmakers did a cracking job as I'd say the finished article looks much sleeker than would have been had they slavishly followed the original plans and concepts. Of all the plans produced, the plan view had most in common with the actual miniature. Keep up the good work. Regards, Simon Atkinson. I'm not sure the original MGM art dept drawings will be as useful as you you think. Because, Modelmasters who made the filming miniatures did not slavishly follow the drawings as issued to them. The models were almost certainly modified when they arrived in Kubrick's model makers workshop as well, the later being undocumented. Simon Atkinson's drawings, I believe are far more accurate than most give them credit for.You really do need to contract both Ian Walsh and Scott Alexander (Chris Trice has done a lot of research as well) as I believe they may have had sight of MGM art Dept drawings and done a shed load of research on the models. Knowing Adam Johnson who mastered the forthcoming Moebius Orion kit, I have no doubts it will be on the money - his Aries I-B was nigh on perfect. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Finially finished mine. Used the kit decals (was a Review build) but added some Pan Am markings from Acreation Models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 That looks a beauty! All we need now is some monkey throwing a bone in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 Very nice build indeed. It proves the smooth finish and adding the panel lines with decals was the right call from Moebius. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Velociweiler Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Now I've finished the Aries 1B on the Science Fiction Group Build I also took the opportunity to finish an Aurora Orion I started some years ago. I made a limited number of mods to it, and filled all the panel line trenches, but also used the panel line decals from the Moebius kit - that kit now on its way to a friend of mine with some spare Pan Am decals. The Pan Am roundel is from the Aurora kit but the 'Pan American' text broke up in the water bowl, so I supplanted some spares from elsewhere. As can be seen I also added other panel lines and some shading of individual panels. No display stand for it (yet) 'cos I've something planned for it... Just wanted to show it and the Aries together - hope no-one minds me using this thread for the purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Great to see some wonderful Orion builds with the panel decals on, so they really do work after all? I have the very old Airfix kit, picked up at a boot sale for a couple of quid with all the issues involved, I have addressed the nose angle and altered the cockpit window and even thought about cutting the cabin window sections out completely and scracthing new inserts? Clearly not worth resolving at all, as the Moebius redention, looks a very nice kit indeedy? Best use my bargin as a lighting test rig and give Mr Cultman a call? Great thread, learned a lot. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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