Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Can anyone give me an F.S. number for the overall colour of the M113 in Vietnam, please? The Tamiya kit just lists the appropriate colour from their own range, and a quick flick through Squadron/Signal's M113 in Vietman in Action didn't help, I could only see references by colour name (i.e. Olive Drab), not F.S. number. Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overhaulin Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Clear as mud. i mean OD http://www.mil-mod.nl/html/featod.html Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Dan tells me that Tamiya Olive Drab is VERY close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 When I built my first one I painted in Humbrol 155. And when I do my next couple they will also be in Humbrol 155. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks for the replies, guys. So, it looks like virtually any shade of olive drab will do! I found a photo of the M113 ACAV I'm going to build, and it looks pretty grubby, so the finish will probably be more weathering than paint, anyway! Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Can anyone give me an F.S. number for the overall colour of the M113 in Vietnam, please? The Tamiya kit just lists the appropriate colour from their own range, and a quick flick through Squadron/Signal's M113 in Vietman in Action didn't help, I could only see references by colour name (i.e. Olive Drab), not F.S. number.Obi-Jiff Revell 42 is the best match I have found straight from the tin for FS24087. Note that this is semi-gloss for greater durability and is a very different colour from the matt FS34087. But you're right, there was so much mud and dust (mostly red) in Vietnam that the proper colour is pretty academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Interesting. I shall have to try and find a Revell paint stockist - everyone round here does Humbrol! Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Hi Obi-Jiff, look at this, http://picasaweb.google.pl/zippo132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Cool link - thanks. Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Interesting. I shall have to try and find a Revell paint stockist - everyone round here does Humbrol!Obi-Jiff I find Revell paints very good and they have a good selection of colours, usually cross referenced to the RAL system so an RAL colour chart is useful. Most shades are available in acrylic as well as enamel. Some of the online stores stock them if you haven't got them in a local store. I live near Oxford and Boswells department store stocks the full range in its first floor hobby area. They've a reasonable selection of kits too - worth dropping in if anyone is visiting the city. But use the excellent Park and Ride system - city centre car parking rates are penal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 I prefer enamels - can't get on with acrylics, so the Tamiya Olive Drab is no good for me. I'll either try and pick up the Revell enamel, or see what's close in Humbrol. Doesn't have to be exact, it's gonna be covered in dust, mud and stowage! Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I'd still be inclined to stick with shades that are marketed as OD, myself. Revell 42 is Gelboliv, which is a German 1950s colour and I suspect is a little too yellow to match. But, as you say, after suitable weathering you could probably use Prussian Blue and it would still look right. What I've seen of armour from Vietnam suggests that it took a right hammering and was cleaned far too little. Don't forget how red a lot of the soil was out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 My primary reference is Squadron/Signal's M113 in Vietnam in Action, which has mainly full-colour photos - shows up the weathering nicely, so I can go to town on that aspect. It should also help to hide my lack of airbush! Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I prefer enamels - can't get on with acrylics, so the Tamiya Olive Drab is no good for me. Why not simply buy their enamel OD then? Tamiya do make all their colours in both Acrylic (round jars) and enamel (square bottles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuts Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 hi, have a look at Testors they do FS colours in the MM range, best enamels I've used for ages for brush & AB graham at relish stocks em at a nice price too Why not simply buy their enamel OD then? Tamiya do make all their colours in both Acrylic (round jars) and enamel (square bottles). agree about Tamiya's enamel range very good stuff, but can't get em over here I get mine from Lukymodels. HTH Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 I was unaware that Tamiya did any enamels. Thanks for pointing those out. I've had very good results with Modelmaster paints (got some that are 20 years old or more, and still perfectly useable), so I'll probably look for something appropriate in their range. Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 OJK As the others have said Tamiya OD is very close, I have always added a little Tamiya Zinc Chromate or straight Yellow, just to lighten it up a wee bit. Nowadays Humbrol 155 is not really an option for post-war US AFV's. The 'new' mix is way too brown, more like a (lightish), khaki drab (sorry Daz), the old mix was a little light too, but good to represent a slightly faded OD. Just my Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thanks Ian. I'll have to have a look at these Tamiya enamels. Mind you, I'm quite tempted to try either Modelmaster or Humbrol US Marine Corps Green (I have some old Humbrol tins somewhere), as it's quite a dark green, similar to the colour photos I've seen of M113s. I'll possibly do a back-to-back test with a few different colours and see what I like. Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 OJK Check your PM's re USMC green ! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Thanks Ian. My USMC green isn't wasted though, apparently it was the original colour used on the PBR 31. Obi-Jiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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