AnonymousAA72 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) My poor old Mojo......lost ages ago, and now maybe, just maybe on its way back? We'll see.....long on my "to-do" list has been another Airfix Hawk. This will be my fourth. These have ranged from totally OOB, to a full compliment of resin , white metal and photo etch - as here... Lets see if I can keep my Mojo up (so to speak!) whilst on this project. Have had a couple of days off of work so started this yesterday morning - and the last photo was where I ended up lat night m- not bad progress after such a long lay-off!!! First of all an old pic, of the NeoMega cockpit set. Not entirely sure of how accurate it is in places!! But its nicely tooled! NeoMega also did earlier Hawk seats - with the inverted "T" head box. I'll be using these on this model. Apparently they were changed to the currently used Mk 10 headbox (similar to those found on Shar's and Tornado's) on export models and to afford the rear occupant a greater view of what was going on up front... Two Mikes Resin intakes and centre section Combo set - HIGHLY recommended - its superbly tooled! The upper side walls has the rippled effect found on aircraft...very impressive! And here's where it goes - a simple (ish) drop in section after carefully butchering the fuselage halves of course!! I used Xtracrylic XA1126 for the 'pit. It seemed a reasonable match to Admiralty Grey - certainly after a darker wash and a highlighting As you can see, I've separated the nose -in readiness for the cut and shut operation The two nose halves were a bit reluctant to stay together - despite a fair amount of fettling to NeoMega's resin.. This plastic clamp helped persuade the two halves to behave! 2M's resin centre section. I have added the compressor blades to the rear - though in all honesty - you can't really see much through the intake trunking The "Shut" part of the "Cut and Shut" operation commences.... Upper section and Intakes added... On to the wings... In preparation of having the flaps deployed - I removed them on the lower wing. I also removed the wheel well "roof". Far too shallow. I'll replace this later with plastic card and fuse wire... Lower wings added... Thats about as far as I've got. Not bad for a few hours "work". Sorry about the "Blueness" of the pic's!!! I'll adjust my settings on the next batch ! Edited July 26, 2010 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHIL B Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Great to see you back at it Bill and with a nice little Hawk too. I know you share my affection for Airfix's poor old neglected 1/48th kit. The early seats have intrigued me. Which scheme will this one carry? Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Great to see you back at it Bill and with a nice little Hawk too. I know you share my affection for Airfix's poor old neglected 1/48th kit.The early seats have intrigued me. Which scheme will this one carry? Phil. Thanks Phil, lets hope I can keep the enthusiasm up for this - we have a club night next Tuesday, so I may aim to finish it by then - unlikely but hey its something for me to aim at!! Plan is to do it in either 4FTS or CFS red/white and grey. I've found a couple with early seats with the blue spine and fin - it seems most were changed over to the new seat by then - so thats a possibility. The 4FTS decals are on the Xtradecal sheet - and very nice they are too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Thanks Phil, lets hope I can keep the enthusiasm up for this - we have a club night next Tuesday, so I may aim to finish it by then - unlikely but hey its something for me to aim at!!Plan is to do it in either 4FTS or CFS red/white and grey. I've found a couple with early seats with the blue spine and fin - it seems most were changed over to the new seat by then - so thats a possibility. The 4FTS decals are on the Xtradecal sheet - and very nice they are too!!!! Moving along ...albeit at a snail's pace it seems!! Managed to get the upper wings on. here I've painted The joins to highlight any discrepancies - and yes there were a few!! Next? New wing fences and some detail to the cockpit then add the seats...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 bill im watching with interest in perperation for mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 bill im watching with interest in perperation for mine Be interesting to see how the Airfix Hawk compares to the Italeri Hawk - I've yet to get the latter (as I have a few Airfix kits in the stash!) but will do so after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Lets see if I can keep my Mojo up (so to speak!) whilst on this project. You seem to be keeping it up very well so far Bill! Great progress. In preparation of having the flaps deployed - I removed them on the lower wing. I also removed the wheel well "roof". Far too shallow. I'll replace this later with plastic card and fuse wire... I've often wondered about this. Surely the upper surface of the wheel well is the lower surface of the upper wing skin? Sure there are a fair few lines & cables running through there, but it would seem to be a common mistake by kit makers to "double skin" the main wheel well. What are you planning for yours Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoxy Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 You seem to be keeping it up very well so far Bill! Great progress.I've often wondered about this. Surely the upper surface of the wheel well is the lower surface of the upper wing skin? Sure there are a fair few lines & cables running through there, but it would seem to be a common mistake by kit makers to "double skin" the main wheel well. What are you planning for yours Bill? The upper surface of the wheel well consist of a fabricated infill panel, and is a " no-step" area as it is a lot lighter and thinner than the wing skin.regards Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Nice work Bill... good to see you back in the saddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 You seem to be keeping it up very well so far Bill! Great progress.I've often wondered about this. Surely the upper surface of the wheel well is the lower surface of the upper wing skin? Sure there are a fair few lines & cables running through there, but it would seem to be a common mistake by kit makers to "double skin" the main wheel well. What are you planning for yours Bill? Cheers Kirk, On the kit the wheel well is placed under the fuselage underneath and behind the intakes. I've removed the plastic "roof" and all that has done is to expose the lower chunk of resin! I think I may still add a "roof" of plastic card and detail that...it should be a little deeper than the kits part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Cheers Kirk, On the kit the wheel well is placed under the fuselage underneath and behind the intakes. I've removed the plastic "roof" and all that has done is to expose the lower chunk of resin! I think I may still add a "roof" of plastic card and detail that...it should be a little deeper than the kits part! You are of course right Bill - the wheels themselves are predominantly under the fuselage when retracted. I guess I meant the section into which the strut and operating jack retract which is outboard of the fuselage, so.... The upper surface of the wheel well consist of a fabricated infill panel, and is a " no-step" area as it is a lot lighter and thinner than the wing skin.regards Paul. ... I think we're talking about the same area but your comment has confused me a bit 'Foxy. I've seen the no-step markings above; are you saying that this particular section is separate from the main skin (i.e. the skin has a jack-shaped hole in it that is covered by an infill panel) or that this area is double skinned (wing skin on the top, infill panel underneath)? Either way, Bill's approach seems to make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 You are of course right Bill - the wheels themselves are predominantly under the fuselage when retracted. I guess I meant the section into which the strut and operating jack retract which is outboard of the fuselage, so....... I think we're talking about the same area but your comment has confused me a bit 'Foxy. I've seen the no-step markings above; are you saying that this particular section is separate from the main skin (i.e. the skin has a jack-shaped hole in it that is covered by an infill panel) or that this area is double skinned (wing skin on the top, infill panel underneath)? Either way, Bill's approach seems to make a lot of sense. I've never really bothered that much with super detailling wheel wells etc., as they're rarely seen (on my models anyway!!), but I will add some details - and I'll do something about those main doors too!!! Just been trawling around for some airbrake well interior shots, and from what I've seen these look fairly "empty" as well. Certainly not as complex an area as on the Harrier for example.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Glad to see you got your mojo back bill, I know I lost mine for a bit Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 bill ive got some airbreak shots somwhere ill dig them out if you want them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTnailZ Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Looks great so far cant wait to see the rest Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHIL B Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 bill ive got some airbreak shots somwhere ill dig them out if you want them Can I see 'em too plese Mark? Sorry Bill. Keep up the good work. Whats your plan for the mainwheel doors? Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 i will post them in the Hawk reference thread tommorow afternoon after nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skii Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Some serious work there Bill, but then again you are a master at grafting resin to plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 bill ive got some airbreak shots somwhere ill dig them out if you want them Yes please Mark, Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Can I see 'em too plese Mark?Sorry Bill. Keep up the good work. Whats your plan for the mainwheel doors? Phil. The "current " plan is to drill out the circular centre section - with the raised bars - thin the exterior surface and then laminate a couple of pieces of thin plastic card with the circular "dot" included. That sthe current plan anyway!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHIL B Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 The "current " plan is to drill out the circular centre section - with the raised bars - thin the exterior surface and then laminate a couple of pieces of thin plastic card with the circular "dot" included. That sthe current plan anyway!! Sounds good to me. I'm not brave enough to try to re-skin them from the outside. It would also allow you to correct the angle on the outside edge of the doors. I took a different route by carving away the central bars and using a compass cutter with the blade turned 90 degrees to scrape a more vertical 'wall' to the circular cut out. I'm planning to use a thin plastic or aluminium disc with the rivets and webs embossed from the back and the central hole cut out. My next build of this kit will be XX154 in first flight configuration so the doors will work just fine for that one. There's more than one way to do nasty things to a moggie eh? Please don't keep us in suspense too long for the next bit of your build. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Sounds good to me. I'm not brave enough to try to re-skin them from the outside. It would also allow you to correct the angle on the outside edge of the doors.I took a different route by carving away the central bars and using a compass cutter with the blade turned 90 degrees to scrape a more vertical 'wall' to the circular cut out. I'm planning to use a thin plastic or aluminium disc with the rivets and webs embossed from the back and the central hole cut out. My next build of this kit will be XX154 in first flight configuration so the doors will work just fine for that one. There's more than one way to do nasty things to a moggie eh? Please don't keep us in suspense too long for the next bit of your build. Phil Some food for thought there Phil Cheers!! Funny enough, I'm planning on an "In-Flight" Hawk as well, not sure in what scheme yet though! Anyway, been poodling along with this model - not a lot of progress really - certainly not as much as I'd hoped for - but at least I haven't given up yet!! I've given the joint lines a quick brush of paint to high-light any errors..I've also started the process of correcting the fins leading edge fillet. Airfix's shape is wrong, though it seems a bit more accurate on their 1/72nd kit!! I'm not sure if I have any pic's of this process, but it was simple to add platic strip - fill with superglue/talc gloop and file to shape.. And attended to....though by this time I'd also given the whole airframe a coat of Light Grey undercoat Time for some colour(!). Light Aircraft Grey has been applied to the inner wing sections..White next! I've still to add some detail to the wheel well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Looking good Bill, did you replace the the grills on the upperfuselage? Thanks for the tip on reshaping the front of the fin, something else to do on my build. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Looking good Bill, did you replace the the grills on the upperfuselage?Thanks for the tip on reshaping the front of the fin, something else to do on my build. Shaun. Yes, I hadn't intended to, but managed to remove one (its recessed by the way!) whilst sanding down!! I've used Airwaves brass set - at least I can add that PE set to the list of aftermarket resin used!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 sorry bill i havent had chance to upload photos yet as i had a few problems at home, the little one decided we needed another trip to hospital for stiches, but we are back and sorted now so i shall see what i can find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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