Air Frame Bae Hawk 2010 50 years of 4fts aniversary scheme

[Mark M]

wel chapps what can i say

RAF Bae Systems Hawk T1a 50 years of 4FTS Anniversary Scheme 2010

ok whats in the box

you get:

1. the normal Airfix red arrows tooling (new one)

2. resin ejector seats

3. instruction book

4. paper mask sheet

5. decal instructions and decal sheet

the kit

well what can is say about it, there are many reviews of this kit, and it is the normal airfix kit

the Seats

these are criply molded and are very well detailed, i beliieve these are also avaliable direct from MA

the instructions

this is the airfix instructions formed nicley into a tidy booklet, it has corrections form the airfix kit and includeds the modifications required to install the seats and additions for ariels ect, it als o includes some good reference photos, although small and ejector seat photos

the paper mask

the paper mask is basically a copy of the decals sheet, so you can cut out the white pieces of the decals im unsure at the time of how this would help all that masking

the decals

these look good, thin and in perfect register and for once there are stencils for the 'data', the instruction booklet is to the normal standard for MA, clear diagrams for masking and decasl placement and colour call outs

in conclusion

over all this is a nice package with a good kit to base it on, the seats look good but at this scale i doubt if its worth the time and the effort as they wont been seen, the main problem is going to be masking the kit to apply the paint, (colour call outs in hunbrol and xtracolour) i cant wait to build this kit, but as for value for money, well i dont think it is, a airfix hawk can be bought for as little as a fiver and you dont really need the seats, so £18 seams a lot, in hind site id just buy the decasl sheet

Edited May 20, 2010 by markmarples

[CockneyCol]

Can't wait for mine to arrive!!!

[leader3]

MMM

£18.00 does seem a little high,

but saying that compared to some 72nd kits its not bad.

just wondering if they would do it in 48th.

now theres a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mark M]

MMM

£18.00 does seem a little high,

but saying that compared to some 72nd kits its not bad.

just wondering if they would do it in 48th.

now theres a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as i understand it there are plans for 1/48 and 1/32 decal sheets

[leader3]

as i understand it there are plans for 1/48 and 1/32 decal sheets

SPLENDID

[jasman71]

good pics Mark

Well as I said I am still unsure about parting with £18 for it, not saying that I wouldn't if the thing was sat in front of me, but when I do the standard kit I am not bothered about the seats at all, so if there was a version minus those for around £12-13 then I wouldn't think twice

Do my eyes see they reccommend Humbrol 25 for the blue? I have the Xtracolor blue but it just looks dark to me..

Looking forward to all that masking! Maybe it will be less tedious on the Revell 32 later?

[Mark M]

good pics Mark

Well as I said I am still unsure about parting with £18 for it, not saying that I wouldn't if the thing was sat in front of me, but when I do the standard kit I am not bothered about the seats at all, so if there was a version minus those for around £12-13 then I wouldn't think twice

Do my eyes see they reccommend Humbrol 25 for the blue? I have the Xtracolor blue but it just looks dark to me..

Looking forward to all that masking! Maybe it will be less tedious on the Revell 32 later?

yep 25 ill have a look at the xtraclyic blue before i decided, and your right the 32 has got to be easier, i just hope the decals dont break and arnt see through

[jasman71]

yep 25 ill have a look at the xtraclyic blue before i decided, and your right the 32 has got to be easier, i just hope the decals dont break and arnt see through

well would it work then if you sprayed a base coat of white overall, then put the paper masks on, painted the red blue and black, then applied the white decals? That may guarantee opacity

[Mark M]

well would it work then if you sprayed a base coat of white overall, then put the paper masks on, painted the red blue and black, then applied the white decals? That may guarantee opacity

yep thats the way to go, especially with the red, it needs a white undercoat anyway, its going to be hard work, and i think you need to leave all the bits off, and i mean all of them!

[Mark M]

the instructions surgest to paint the whole airframe black first then red then blue, but im not convinced by this as the white decals will show any imperfections badly, infact if its masked well, you may not need the white decals?

[aw-boss man]

as i understand it there are plans for 1/48 and 1/32 decal sheets

The 1/48th Decal sheet is now available as well.

Regards

Gary

[Mark M]

The 1/48th Decal sheet is now available as well.

Regards

Gary

thanks for that Gary, i hope i did it justice, and thanks for the speedy delivery, as i said im not sure of the painting it all black thing but i cant wait to build it!

[Mark M]

im having a problem sourcing roundall blue! x030 or i guess xa1030 acrylic anyone have any ideas

[Antony Robertson]

Hi Guys

My kit dropped through the door this morning, and it looks very complicated to mask up the white, but we'll see when it comes to it.

With ref to the Roundel Blue, i used the Humbrol 25 enamel on the all blue Hawk i built and is in my 2010 builds thread. I thought it looked too dark at first, but when comparing to the decals it seems fine.

Antony

[Mark M]

yep your right the white is going to be a pain, i think im going to have to try with Humbrol 25, as there doesnt appear to be much choice

[RussTnailZ]

I really like this kit but just cant bring myself to part with £18 for it im going to wait for the 32 decals and put them on the revell

Russ

[Mark M]

i think thats the right decision to make, dont get me wrong she will look good, if i dont F**k it up but £18 is a lot, basically the seats you dont need so thats £13 for one set of decals, plus p&p

[RussTnailZ]

i think thats the right decision to make, dont get me wrong she will look good, if i dont F**k it up but £18 is a lot, basically the seats you dont need so thats £13 for one set of decals, plus p&p

Plus i dont trust myself to do that scheme justice on a 72 should be fairly straight forward on the 32

Russ

[Robert]

I wonder if another British decal manufacturer might issue their own sheet in 1/72.

Robert

[jasman71]

I wonder if another British decal manufacturer might issue their own sheet in 1/72.

Robert

I expect so, maybe Xtradecal will give it a go.. I wonder if they'd go for decals with the red and blue already printed on them too? Could be interesting..

Also, I wondered if the likes of Hasegawa made a Hawk.. a) what their price for it would be.. (around £10 I expect).. and how many releases they would get off the same kit with all these special schemes.. if you think what they have done to the likes of Mustangs and F-16s.. and would they hitch up the price to the £16 mark for the privilege? But, again, if we said £6 for an Airfix Hawk, and maybe the same for a decal sheet, that's still £12, so not too bad in the end..

[Mark M]

I expect so, maybe Xtradecal will give it a go.. I wonder if they'd go for decals with the red and blue already printed on them too? Could be interesting..

Also, I wondered if the likes of Hasegawa made a Hawk.. a) what their price for it would be.. (around £10 I expect).. and how many releases they would get off the same kit with all these special schemes.. if you think what they have done to the likes of Mustangs and F-16s.. and would they hitch up the price to the £16 mark for the privilege? But, again, if we said £6 for an Airfix Hawk, and maybe the same for a decal sheet, that's still £12, so not too bad in the end..

goin by some of the MA decals (i.e. the st athan dragon) i hope xtradecal does a sheet, the MA decasl have been, what shall we say, not their finest. if hase did the hwak it would sell like hot cakes, even at £16 espexially if they covers some of the rare odd sceemes, like the black one with yellow fire nose

[ollieholmes]

Ive just orderd the 1:48 sheet and i will let you know how it looks but im not going to build it for a while yet.

[PhantomMJI]

Just curious....Why are the paper masks included with this kit? Is the expectation that these will be used over a white base coat so that one does not need the white decals? Or are they required when using the white decals to mask of the white undercoat so that the white decals will not show bleed through?

Are there any recomendations on how to stick on the paper masks if they are used? With all the fine lines, this seems a bit tricky. I have this these kit on order as I am a sucker for cool, special schemes!

Have fun modeling!

Mike

[Mark M]

i have no idea why they put these in they are a thin card, the painting instructions recomend painting alover black first then red then blue, which i think will be a mistake, i recon white then mask the areas then red then blue and finaly black, im goingto photocopy the masking card and cut out the paper then use the template to cut tape and mask the white with that

[jasman71]

i have no idea why they put these in they are a thin card, the painting instructions recomend painting alover black first then red then blue, which i think will be a mistake, i recon white then mask the areas then red then blue and finaly black, im goingto photocopy the masking card and cut out the paper then use the template to cut tape and mask the white with that

If I get one I might use the card templates to put over some large Tamiya tape and then use that for masking.. after a base coat of gloss white anyway. I'll just have to get one and experiment