hawk t1's (loads done more to come)

[Mark M]

thanks phil

[xffw45343tg]

Wozzat pod then Phil?

[jasman71]

I think that little pod is used for making the radar signature much bigger? I have seen them before on various Hawks, always carried below the fuselage in the pics I have seen. I am not 100% but I think that is it's purpose in life

[xffw45343tg]

Thanks Jas. With a bit of luck, one of the armourers will be along shortly with its name, make and CoG. Wonder what its hanging on too?

[PHIL B]

Thanks Jas. With a bit of luck, one of the armourers will be along shortly with its name, make and CoG. Wonder what its hanging on too?

I'm no armourer but I think its support frame was made from old iron girders left over from the Vulcan Black Buck pylons. Either that or they fell off the Forth Bridge.

So Mark, are you going to do the pod with its chequered finish in 1/72?

Phil

[Mark M]

i wasnt planning too, but ill see what i can find in the spares box, for the boc and ironbrew

[jasman71]

Thanks Jas. With a bit of luck, one of the armourers will be along shortly with its name, make and CoG. Wonder what its hanging on too?

a direct quote from an online page about the Hawk...

"..In some cases the agile Hawk is used in "aggressor" training, fitted with radar signature enhancement devices to simulate a larger aircraft.."

Must be some spare squadron markings to do the chequers on it, use up some bored decals

Edited June 11, 2010 by jasman71

[xffw45343tg]

Sorry Jas - I didn't mean it to sound like I didn't trust your identification & I hope I haven't offended. It's just that the likes of Spike, Bombed, Shar etc have often fitted these things themselves and so give interesting perspectives not found in books.

[Howard of Effingham]

63 sqn yellow and black checks would be ideal for this little pod.

available on a number of modeldecal and xtradecal sheets, methinks.

[jasman71]

Sorry Jas - I didn't mean it to sound like I didn't trust your identification & I hope I haven't offended. It's just that the likes of Spike, Bombed, Shar etc have often fitted these things themselves and so give interesting perspectives not found in books.

haha no worries Kirk (I have to look twice with these ageing eyes these days anyway!) I wanted to find a good pic of one online, as I have a few in books at home, but what to type for a search.. I ended up with ' BAe HAwk radar enhancement pod under fuselage' and got a few returns.. That quote was from one page in there, so as much as anything it was to confirm to me what it is for too Probably shouldn't be impossible to build, but may be a tad small in 72 though, especially if trying to get a chequered decal to wrap around, but may be easier in 48 and 32.

[Mark M]

i have some old airfix hurricane drop tanks which look about right size and shape, ill have a go at painting them yellow and masking the squares and see what happens, alough i may also make a strip of yellow black cheques and print a decal strip when i print this week (when the paper arrives), not sure what to use for the iron attachment yet? ant ideas

any more pictures would be great especially with positioning

Edited June 12, 2010 by markmarples

[Scarlet]

Wozzat pod then Phil?

Luneberg lens radar reflector. As you've already said it increases the Hawk's radar signature.

The bracket it's bolted to looks very much like a mount for a rearward facing camera. I can remember fitting one at Valley. The bracket used some of the mounts for the gun pod. If I remember right a rearward facing camera was used to stop the lens getting covered with crap and then the film was played backwards to make it look as if the aircraft was flying forward!

[Shaun]

The bracket it's bolted to looks very much like a mount for a rearward facing camera. I can remember fitting one at Valley. The bracket used some of the mounts for the gun pod. If I remember right a rearward facing camera was used to stop the lens getting covered with crap and then the film was played backwards to make it look as if the aircraft was flying forward!

A famous example of the rear facing camera in use-

QED, shape of the nation

Shaun.

Edited June 12, 2010 by Shaun

[jasman71]

A couple of pics taken from a book - just via camera - not scanned - so apologies for quality

[Mark M]

jason thats perfect i can sort out positioning from that, ill have a go to make one on monday im at work at the moment

so mondays plan

finsih decaling the 2010

do the wheels for the 2010

red paint on the xx164

make a pod!

[Mark M]

ok

the decaling has finished, im just adding the landing gear and finishing touches of the 2010, and the painting is done on 164, the blue is the xtraclyix duncleblau which looks pretty good to me

[RussTnailZ]

love it mate you have certainly done that justice i want my 1/32 now

Russ

[xffw45343tg]

That's quite some masking Mark. Nice one.

[Mark M]

ok here she ix XX263

pictures by my 6 year old Jamie

[Antony Robertson]

Wow, she came out superbly, big thumbs up from me!

Antony

[Mark M]

thanks Antony!! i havent got her perfect but im really happy with it, i didnt use the seats, i have a plan for them. it wasnt as hard as i thought it was going to be

[jasman71]

looking good sir! I need to do a blue and red one sometime; I have decals for 3 to do, but was never sure of the blue to use. I have found my old Xrtracolor dunkelblue so I may try that.

I did my 164 without the blue though I must admit it does look better with it!

OK, you'll hate me for this, but a little reminder for all your future Hawks... have a look at where the wing fences go - they need to be on the outermost cutouts on the bottom wing, or nearer the wingtips than the fuselage (in line with the ends of the flaps/ailerons). I only noticed because the red wing areas on 164 looked a smidge large... and that is why Please don't shoot me. I am just the messenger (sent from the voices in my head )

[Scarlet]

Nice one Mark.

[Mark M]

Jason i wont shoot you, strangle you yes! but not shoot you, ive been trusing airx to get it right but, i should know better, they are fitted where the 'marks' are but you are right i spotted it myself after the painting.

the xtraclyix blue i think is perfect

thanks mate, next one ill check the fences

[jasman71]

Jason i wont shoot you, strangle you yes! but not shoot you, ive been trusing airx to get it right but, i should know better, they are fitted where the 'marks' are but you are right i spotted it myself after the painting.

the xtraclyix blue i think is perfect

thanks mate, next one ill check the fences

you got me! Own up, you were just distracted by....

I don't look at their instructions any more, so I tend to make them pretty much the same way.. for example I put all the cockpit parts, except for the seats, into the right sides, glue them up.. then after painting the first grey coat onto them, I am glueing the wings together, after cutting out the outer locating points for the fences.. Then glue the wings together, add the fences, and the flap actuators... just a little routine I get into.. I just try to wizz through the construction fairly quickly til I am at the painting stage, I tend to enjoy it more then, having my blank.. er.. grey canvas.. to paint upon I often wonder if Airfix would sell me 30 or so at a discounted price and without the boxes, instructions, or decals even... HA! I wonder if they'd sponsor us!