tc2324 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Getting the kit below ready for kick off and this one will have a distinctly Soviet feel to it... (Well, my B-52 gotta have an escort... ) Now, do I do a `G` or an `E` version...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I do like what-if builds, can't wait to see how it goes. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Getting the kit below ready for kick off and this one will have a distinctly Soviet feel to it... (Well, my B-52 gotta have an escort... )Now, do I do a `G` or an `E` version...???? If it is to be an escort or the B-52 then it must be the E unless the G carries something special in the way of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 If it is to be an escort or the B-52 then it must be the E unless the G carries something special in the way of weapons. Thats a fair point Jabba, but I`m basing my build on the real life rumour that the Soviets did actually rebuild and fly at least two F-4`s, so technicaly it could be any version right up till 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHREAK Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thats a fair point Jabba, but I`m basing my build on the real life rumour that the Soviets did actually rebuild and fly at least two F-4`s, so technicaly it could be any version right up till 1989. It's true, I saw them in the film 'Ice Station Zebra'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Not sure about F-4's but I can do you an F-5.................. http://www.randalf.cz/sw/ru/tiger.php Not sure how 'legit' many of the pics are, but still intersting WHIF's if nothing else. I used Babelfish to translate into pidgin English. Soviet Vampire anyone? MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's true, I saw them in the film 'Ice Station Zebra'! You forgot to mention `that` episode of Magnam PI...... Soviet Vampire anyone?MH Soviet F-86 looks tasty...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 check out this thread over on the Key Publishing forum http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...l%3Den%26sa%3DG I had an OMG moment with the F-14 until I scrolled down! MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) And so it begins... Cut and trimed a few things and put some Soviet air to air missiles together. Placed the two main sections together and found out they have a slight bow outwards. That will be fun later and require a few elastic bands. As you may already gather, I`m not a big fan of cockpit detail, so put that together but left the seats seperate. I`m going to have a crack at painting them and the ejection handles. Edited February 23, 2010 by tc2324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Not much done tonight. Primed the cockpit and seats and then sprayed on their base colour. Wait to dry and add a bit of detail tomorrow. Primed the missiles and this happened..... Any one know why..?? Finished by glueing the main section together and then buffing it off. The kits not a perfect fit and I have a feeling that filler will be my friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHO77 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Finished by glueing the main section together and then buffing it off. The kits not a perfect fit and I have a feeling that filler will be my friend.... "eehhhh gad Brain...raised panel lines...oh no Pinky,run for your liffffffeeee!!!" I'm a convert for the illicit trade in sunken panel lines.Starting to become curious in scribing tools now but the schematic plans strewn across my hobby desk whilst I figure out how to fix wrongly scribbed lines,is not what I'm looking for right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahut Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Cool, a Russian Phantom. Hey, they copied plenty of things over the years, so why not? Im looking forward to this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Trying out a new way of filling that seems so obvious when you think about it. Use masking tape so that you don`t cover the entire model in filler, which is what I tend to do..... Before.... After.... Willpost the results later tonight to see if it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Said results....... Not perfect, but need not be as this will fall in line with my backstory when finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahut Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I hope I don't sound like a plonker, but I thought masking when filling was pretty standard stuff. Ive done it for, well... a long time. I'm glad you got a new trick, one that is, as you show, pretty darned good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 I hope I don't sound like a plonker, but I thought masking when filling was pretty standard stuff. Ive done it for, well... a long time. I'm glad you got a new trick, one that is, as you show, pretty darned good. I thought it might be an old trick. Saw this suggested on another forum and had a `Doh!` moment. This Phantom in only my 5th build so you will have to forgive my lateness to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Yes I know, another update...., I promise to finish this one up asap... Anyway, completed my scheme today, a mixture of polished and un-polished aluminum to represent the various aircraft parts patched together. Also added a bit of weathering to add to the `weary` look. Going to complete the u/c, canopy and Soviet AF missiles during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 Model complete. Next post will be the diorama shots and backstory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Time to put this puppy to bed, so backstory and pics as follows..... BREAKING SKY NEWS De-classified files and photographs released from the Defence Ministry of the Russian Federation have now come to light of a number of secret trails conducted with captured or rebuilt Western aircraft types. Although a number of a western aircraft had been known to exist within the Russians inventory, the most surprising shock of these revelations was the use of a number of McDonald Douglas F-4 Phantoms, a type that was never considered to have been test flown by Soviet pilots. According to the files at least four F-4 Phantoms were flown and test evaluated from 1969 through to 1986. They consisted of two C`s, one D and E version of the type. The only pictures released so far are low grade black and white and seem to show the E version on the ramp at an undisclosed airbase `in Siberia`. According to the documents, this particular aircraft was rebuilt using various parts from crashed examples obtained from countries with `strong` diplomatic links to the old communist regime. It is believed that parts came from Vietnam , Syria and Egypt where numerous Phantom aircraft had seen combat over the years. All examples were flown in a bare metal finish and had a `patchy` appearance due the various companies charged with rebuilding or reconditioning the parts needed or obtained. An interesting section of the Phantom file is the assessment given by the Soviet pilots that flew them. While most commented that the aircraft was a delight to fly and very forgiving with its flight characteristics, the views changed when it came to `dog fighting` and using the aircraft in an operational capacity. While the F-4 was considered a good `stand off` platform, during eight out of ten 1v1 `within visual range` engagements with Mig-21`s, the Mig-21 always managed to out turn the F-4 and gain a better advantage. It is now understood by analysts that the high amount of Mig casualties during the Vietnam conflict was due to pilot error and inexperience within the North Vietnamese air force. Also noted was that due to the size of Soviet Air to Air Missiles of the day only the short range versions could be stored on the inner pylons as the medium and long ranges missiles would disrupt the undercarriage from extending or retracting and these were placed on the outer pylons during live fire exercises. This was also noted to have an adverse effect on the in flight handling of the Phantom during hard G manoeuvres. Overall, the achievement made by the old Soviet guard to recreate and reverse engineer these Phantoms should be considered with high regard, but ultimately the next generation of fighters were getting airborne which would make the Phantom obsolete, and the only task left for these F-4 recreations was to supply the Soviet Air Force pilots with realistic opponents for ACM duties. The low quality pictures released with the files show the E version and a Mig-21, circa 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire23bc Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That backstory is totally unbelieveable - Sky News would never be that precise. But seriously, great story and an even better build. Love the Phantomski; it really looks the part. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahut Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Excellent! Have you told Tom Clancy that you have his next story? I was surprised to learn that the Russians didn't generally leave their aircraft in NMF. They painted them in aluminum lacquer to protect them. 'Came as a surprise to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifer54 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Wow, that Toomski really looks the part- looks like something Tupolev might have built (if you squint at it a bit!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie M. Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I like this idea very much. Great looking build as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 That looks great! The NMF really suits the long-nose Phantom I was surprised to learn that the Russians didn't generally leave their aircraft in NMF. They painted them in aluminum lacquer to protect them. 'Came as a surprise to me. Maybe just the one coat in 20 years by the looks of some of 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Thanks for the compliments guys. I`m pretty proud of this build as it came together nicely and looks the part in the pictures. Now just waiting for the KGB to knock at my door...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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