orca Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Recce phreak, Every Sea Harrier had the F95 fitted, if you look at the picture of 003 on LUST it's the black tear drop you can see on the starboard side of the fuselage between the AoA probe and starboard pitot tube. It took great black and white photos and could take IR film too. It was aimed by means of a china graph cross on the canopy roughly aligned with the pilot's shoulder. It was started and stopped by depressing the paddle switch on the control column. Long winded way of saying that most jets at some point did recce whether tasked or not. The camera provided some great images in The Balkans and was very handy for opportunity shots too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) I have the airfix 1/72 fa2 on the go, fitted the canopy and there is a gap at the rear, with the pointy bit floating in the air, should this be? Edited August 29, 2016 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hi Stu, The simple answer is NO, there shouldn't be a gap. In their 1:48th scale kit there's a rear bulkhead for the canopy with an extension at right angles which comes out a tad under the tip of the rear of the canopy. Search Sea Harrier canopies and you should find some photos to help. Not being a 1:72nd scale modeller I've not had that problem! You could also check some of the builds of the kit here on BM and see what others have done. Hope that helps. Cheers Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Thanks for the reply, gave up on it, but good to no for next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Me again, couple of uick question re the third option in the FRS1, is dark sea grey the correct grey? And two is there a good extra dark sea grey in the Vallejo model colour range? edit ansered the 2nd question, gunship grey is pretty similar to ESDG which is in vallejos line Edited June 15, 2017 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 10 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Me again, couple of uick question re the third option in the FRS1, is dark sea grey the correct grey? And two is there a good extra dark sea grey in the Vallejo model colour range? edit ansered the 2nd question, gunship grey is pretty similar to ESDG which is in vallejos line yes, they were painted Dark Sea Grey from about 1983/4 until the FA2 came into service (except a couple of specials about 1990) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 16 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Me again, couple of uick question re the third option in the FRS1, is dark sea grey the correct grey? And two is there a good extra dark sea grey in the Vallejo model colour range? edit ansered the 2nd question, gunship grey is pretty similar to ESDG which is in vallejos line I've used several times Vallejo 867 Dark Blue Grey for EDSG and IMHO it's a good match, well capturing the blue hue of this colour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Giorgio N said: I've used several times Vallejo 867 Dark Blue Grey for EDSG and IMHO it's a good match, well capturing the blue hue of this colour Thanks, I went with FS36118 Dark Sea Green, which at least the model air version looks a good one as well, and I discovered to my surprise that Xtrarlcyrix ESDG and FS36118 are virtually the same, and even if the Vallejo proves not blue enough I can always switch to that as my go to FS36118 and use the XA as ESSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, PhantomBigStu said: Thanks, I went with FS36118 Dark Sea Green, which at least the model air version looks a good one as well, and I discovered to my surprise that Xtrarlcyrix ESDG and FS36118 are virtually the same, and even if the Vallejo proves not blue enough I can always switch to that as my go to FS36118 and use the XA as ESSG. Is that 868 Dark Sea Green ? If so this is a very dark colour, IMHO well darker than 36118, so much that I use it to reproduce RLM 74 on WW2 Luftwaffe aircrafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Giorgio N said: Is that 868 Dark Sea Green ? If so this is a very dark colour, IMHO well darker than 36118, so much that I use it to reproduce RLM 74 on WW2 Luftwaffe aircrafts Blast. As I said the model air version is an excellent EDSG, goes to show can't always trust companies to be internally conistent. Oh well guess Ill be using the Xtraclryix and replacing my humbrol RLM74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 The paint on that Gannet looks pretty good. To give you an'idea of what 868 looks like, I used this for the darker grey on this 109: As you see the colour is quite dark and has no blue in it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Yikes that is quite a difference, yet vallejo call them by the same name....oh well, might go and buy some humbrol 123 instead or use the Xtracrylix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Paint arrived today, actually looks better than that 109, obviously not EDSG, but actually a damn good gunship grey, better than the Xtracrylix Gunship grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Not quite the right thread, but as its a sticky and relevent, what needs to be done to convert a frs1 into a fa 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: Not quite the right thread, but as its a sticky and relevent, what needs to be done to convert a frs1 into a fa 2? A very quick "off the top of my head" list Change the radome from the pointed version used by the FRS Mk.1 to the more bulbous example used by the F/A Mk.2 Add a 350mm fuselage extension to the rear fuselage behind the wings Remove the mid-wing leading edge dogtooth and add a new dogtooth nearer to the wing root leading edges During its life the F/A Mk.2's Doppler navigation system was replaced by a GPS system so you may need to remove the yellow/brown Doppler antennas from beneath the front fuselage and add a white circular GPS antenna to the top of the fuselage in front of the tail plane Add some additional cooling vents to the sides of the rear fuselage Hope this helps Edited August 13, 2017 by Richard E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Richard E said: A very quick "off the top of my head" list Change the radome from the pointed version used by the FRS Mk.1 to the more bulbous example used by the F/A Mk.2 Add a 350mm fuselage extension to the rear fuselage behind the wings Remove the mid-wing leading edge dogtooth and add a new dogtooth nearer to the wing root leading edges During its life the F/A Mk.2's Doppler navigation system was replaced by a GPS system so you may need to remove the yellow/brown Doppler antennas from beneath the front fuselage and add a white circular GPS antenna to the top of the fuselage in front of the tail plane Add some additional cooling vents to the sides of the rear fuselage Hope this helps Thanks Richard, more tricky than I had envisioned, though the only sticky point is the dogtooth change, fairly doabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: Thanks Richard, more tricky than I had envisioned, though the only sticky point is the dogtooth change, fairly doabe. Probably not that daunting if you can find some good plan top views of the FRS Mk.1 and F/A Mk.2, it's not a modification I've attempted but I imagine it would just need some filling and cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 - Add probe to the fin and additional probes to the nose. There is a small intake on the side of the nose too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) looks like my best option is to just buy the cheap xtrakit from hannants and salvage the wings and rear fuselage +probe extension and throw the rest away, proably cheaper than buying the whirlybird conversion from abroad which may not fit my frs1 Edited August 14, 2017 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If it's the Airfix FRS1, then I'd use as much of the Xtrakit one as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: If it's the Airfix FRS1, then I'd use as much of the Xtrakit one as possible haseagwa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Signposting folks to the excellent build of an Airfix SHAR FA2 in the March 2018 issue of Airfix Magazine World by Stu Fone. http://www.airfixmodelworld.com/the-magazine/view-issue/?issueID=7060 Lots of good helpful insights to help you there. Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) Thanks Nick. A question for the collective - has the re-release (A04052A) undergone any mould revision? I'm hopeful, in light of the description of Stu's build in the link provided by Nick: "Assistant editor Stu Fone employs scratch-building and aftermarket on a test-shot of Airfix’s pending 1/72 Sea Harrier FA.2 re-release" (my bold). thanks in advance, Andrew. Edited March 3, 2018 by Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Andrew said: Thanks Nick. A question for the collective - has the re-release (A04052A) undergone any mould revision? I'm hopeful, in light of the description of Stu's build in the link provided by Nick: "Assistant editor Stu Fone employs scratch-building and aftermarket on a test-shot of Airfix’s pending 1/72 Sea Harrier FA.2 re-release" (my bold). thanks in advance, Andrew. No, same plastic, just new decals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Thanks very much Dave, I appreciate the quick (if disappointing) answer. I'm keen to read Stu's article and see how he tackles the build. regards, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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