Iain Ogilvie Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Possible Mag article - cleans up OK for a £1.99 model! Just a few details/weathering to add then all done... Iain Edited January 1, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Got one of these to do!!! They look really good done,nice one. I want to do mine as my trusty G-4 IL-2 combat steed,so I need the tail and cockpit hood from the 109F kit 21st C did. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Possible Mag article - cleans up OK for a 1.99 model! Just a few details/weathering to add then all done... Iain Very Nice - I agree, £1.99? Wow..! Now get writing!!! Spence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Miggers - You'll find an awful lot of the Hasegawa parts fit directly - if you can get hold of a spare Hasegawa canopy and tail it should all fit! The 21st Century decals are superb btw... Spence - I am!!! Iain Edited January 1, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Miggers - You'll find an awful lot of the Hasegawa parts fit directly - if you can get hold of a spare Hasegawa canopy and tail it should all fit!The 21st Century decals are superb btw... Spence - I am!!! Iain Thanks for that Iain. And yes,the decals are superb. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi Iain, that looks really great, I too an am sold on the 21st Century kits, cheap, great decals, well engineered, and definately superior to my normal fare of old Revell kits. Hope mine turns out as well ! Cheers Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah - good aren't they Just working out what to do with my two 21st Cent Macchis - already have the Pacific Coast and Craftworks kits - would like to do something a little 'different'... I have a theory that basic models - neatly assembled and painted - can give great results and bust those AMS 'never finish anything' moments. These models are a great basis for that. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 That's really nice, I've been very impressed with these kits, with a couple completed for my son. I've just spent a couple of evenings working through one of the Bf-109Gs, with a few details added here and there. I reworked the tail pretty extensively, which is currently sitting in a bath of RTV rubber, should reduce the workload on the next one! These really are nice kits, a good modeller can turn one into a masterpiece, while there's nothing for kids to be intimidated by. I hope these make a reappearance at some point as they are such a great idea - any idea who's got the moulds? I'd quite like to use the kit decals, they are as good as some of the best aftermarket decals. Problem is, I like to see a photograph of every subject I build, and I've nothing on any of those on the kit sheet. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 I couldn't find any pix of the original aircraft covered on the sheet either. Roy Sutherland is normally quite particular in his research so I elected to trust the decals on mine (just added some spare swasticas from a Hasegawa kit). What have you modded on the tail? I thinned the t/e on mine but left it at that. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I couldn't find any pix of the original aircraft covered on the sheet either. Roy Sutherland is normally quite particular in his research so I elected to trust the decals on mine (just added some spare swasticas from a Hasegawa kit). I have every faith in Roy Sutherland's research, but you can't beat a photograph of the chosen subject. With that in mind.... What have you modded on the tail? I thinned the t/e on mine but left it at that. I generally thinned and refined it a little, removing the pronounced ribbing. I found this reference, which showed more than one style of tall tail. I brought mine as close as possible to the type pictured here. I reasoned that it would be easy to remove the trim tabs for any version that didn't need them, rather than add them afterwards. I don't have my vacuum chamber up and running yet, so fingers crossed that I can get a reasonably bubble-free casting to be going on with. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Hi Bill - yes - did similar on mine with the tail. As to pix - that's normally the way I work too - but I deliberately wanted to do this as straight from the box as possible (with some slight tweaking and some seat straps) and that included doing the one on the box top. Wanted to see what end result would look like and wanted to blow away s severe bout of AMS and modelling blues with this one. It did the trick admirably! If I found a pic that backs it up I'll post details Iain Edited January 1, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Certainly doesn't look £1.99, looks amazing. WOW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks Woody - has certainly put my modelling attitudes into a turn-around - got more enjoyment/satisfactio from these two 12st Century Toys builds than I have in a long time... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadegrip Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Great build I,m just about to start mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) I couldn't find any pix of the original aircraft covered on the sheet either. ..closest I've found is P.111 of the Brekken/Akra "Luftwaffe fighters ..over the Far North " (Classic) - pic of abandoned 10. & 11 Staffel machines. No 'black 10' though..but quite a few other machines with black Staffel numbers....it is clear 11. Staffel a/c with black numbers (outlined in white) had white spinners with a black spiral and there is also evidence that the grey scheme was substantially modified on a number of these a/c with white mottling & squiggles over the greys.. more pictures of 11. Staffel a/c - white spinners prominent - in 'Luftwaffe im Focus Spezial 2' which has a feature on the surrender of III./JG 5 and Gruppenkommandeur Franz Dörr's G-6 and larger reproductions of the photos in the first reference. At least the emblem & fuselage bands are correct as are the 'greyed' out fuselage Balkenkreuze... Edited January 10, 2010 by FalkeEins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Thanks for this! Am searching at the mo for any further material - from www.rafiger.de - not a primary source at all - but there are links to Airwar Over THe North forum http://wwiiairwaroverthenorth.yuku.com/bww...waroverthenorth - which I'm trawling through now! http://www.rafiger.de/Homepage/FBMuseum/In...109-G14-JG5.htm Iain Edited January 10, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Thanks for this!Am searching at the mo for any further material - from www.rafiger.de - not a primary source at all - but there are links to Airwar Over THe North forum ..yellow wing tips are interesting ...as is his reference to Vol III of Mombeek's Eismeerjäger - which hasn't been published yet.. Edited January 10, 2010 by FalkeEins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 More side views - no yellow tips though: http://wwiiairwaroverthenorth.yuku.com/top...5-Bf-109Gs.html But I did spot a photo of damaged/abandoned Black 3 which looks like it may have had yellow tips... You've started something now and I'm not going to stop until I find an actual photo of Black 10 One of the comments on forum was 'the well known Black 10' - so there must be some photos somewhere!! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 ..nice ..although he appears to have got the black/white spinners the wrong way around... 11. Staffel had the white spinners. 'black 3' is the machine visible in the photos in both refs I've seen. The yellow wingtips certainly are a possibility I'd have thought to help ID the aircraft against the white ground..you could always PM the artist for more I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 Well - I've got a spare prop and spinner from the Avia conversion - so I could do one of each - just in case Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) colleagues at the luftwaffe-experten forum (http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org) have come up with this candidate... source is Åkra & Brekken, Profiles in Norway No.7, The Messerschmitt Me 410 in Norway, page 11. Photo above is cropped and enlarged. Edited January 10, 2010 by FalkeEins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 colleagues at the luftwaffe-experten forum (http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org) have come up with this candidate... source is Åkra & Brekken, Profiles in Norway No.7, The Messerschmitt Me 410 in Norway, page 11. Photo above is cropped and enlarged. Thanks FalkeEins, Still haven't found a clearer image - but tempted to do yellow tips now... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith in the uk Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Errrrrrr £ 1.99 you say ? , pity , i only want to spend £ 1.98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 Cheapskate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 OK - not having been able to find conclusive proof re. wing tip colours and spinner - I decided to go ahead and use the kit colour guide - and hopefully not be damned!! So - today I have mostly been finishing this - along with parallel Avia S-199 build - so mass balances, pitots etc... Finishing the mag piece this evening (if not too late) and will get better images when some decent daylight (been black here all day...) Anyhoo - here she is: Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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