Phil Reeder Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I bought this last week,at £24.99,and it`s worth every penny,It `s that accurate I can now become a "Rivet-Measurer" instead of just being a Rivet counter! Cheers phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Tango Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Pray tell us Phil, why do you wish to measure rivets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Pray tell us Phil, why do you wish to measure rivets? To find out how big the frog is...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Cool Phil, have a couple at work in my tool kit, anong with some digital mics, I look at people trying to read the old "analogue" ones these days and think... Why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hooded Claw Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Where's you get it from Phil? H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Reeder Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Where's you get it from Phil?H A tool shop on Newland ave in Hull, Macs Tools 39 Newland ave Hull HU5 3BE 01482 449717,and I think he called it a "Vernier guage" Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Vernier calipers or gauge is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I sell the analogue Vernier version for £3.50. Inside, outside and depth measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4rk Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Technically only the analogue version should be called 'Vernier' calipers, as they use the Vernier scale for the measuring indicator. Digital ones are simply just called digital calipers. I once got snapped at by a senior engineer for this at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerboy Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Because we were trained as engineers, an analogue micrometer could measure much closer than the thou's marked in its graduations, with expert use you could get down to a couple of tenths accuracy (a tenth being 1/ 10,000 of an inch) Calipers ( as pictured ) are a lot more inaccurate, as were original Vernier calipers and would only be used for approx readings ie, plus or minus 5 thou or so. Rick, ex tool maker Cool Phil, have a couple at work in my tool kit, anong with some digital mics, I look at people trying to read the old "analogue" ones these days and think... Why???? Edited September 19, 2009 by sinnerboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Vernier calipers or gauge is correct. I've got one - manual of course (said with a smug voice). It's calibrated in both metric and imperial - measures to 0.001" or 0.02mm. It also provides inside and outside measurements plus depth, and since I do a fair amount of scratchbuilding I don't know what I'd do without it (being an unashamed rivet counter in the best sense of the term, although I have to say it cost a lot more than £3.50!!). Edited September 19, 2009 by Brian1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Because we were trained as engineers, an analogue micrometer could measure much closer than the thou's marked in its graduations, with expert use you could get down to a couple of tenths accuracy (a tenth being 1/ 10,000 of an inch) Calipers ( as pictured ) are a lot more inaccurate, as were original Vernier calipers and would only be used for approx readings ie, plus or minus 5 thou or so. Rick, ex tool maker Rich, You misread into my post that I was comparing a mic to a vernier, I wasn't, I just said I had both, I agree, I have both vernier and digital, but for most jobs in the Aero industryI deal in the need for accuracy is not neccessarily down to that accuracy, unfortunately with an analogue instrument I find that a lot of people these days just cannot read them, and boy have i seen some howlers...... For what it is worth Rolls Royce during the war could machine engine components down to tolerances that cannot be reached anywhere in the world these days, the skill has been lost, they tried to find somewhere but couldn't, not all progress has for the better. BTW I am a fully trained Engineerie thingy too Edited September 19, 2009 by TonyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerboy Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 sorry mate, I did misread. made a few howlers myself. I remember onece when i was an apprentice, my first complete press tool as a phase test....so the main punch ( a fairly complicated shape) was machined, sent off to be hardened, came back and ground to the final dimensions to a .0003" accuracy.... I then realise i'd made the thing 3" long instead of 4....doh .thought I was going to get a right bollocking off my mentor / Foreman, but what he said are words of wisdom I will never forget. He said " the person who never made a mistake never made anything"....how true! Also " measure it, measure it again, and then do it a third time, then you cut metal" cheers rick Rich,You misread into my post that I was comparing a mic to a vernier, I wasn't, I just said I had both, I agree, I have both vernier and digital, but for most jobs in the Aero industryI deal in the need for accuracy is not neccessarily down to that accuracy, unfortunately with an analogue instrument I find that a lot of people these days just cannot read them, and boy have i seen some howlers...... For what it is worth Rolls Royce during the war could machine engine components down to tolerances that cannot be reached anywhere in the world these days, the skill has been lost, they tried to find somewhere but couldn't, not all progress has for the better. BTW I am a fully trained Engineerie thingy too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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