Shaun Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Looking though some threads on UKAR, I came across these- APC Detachment Q-shed Edited March 24, 2010 by Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich F Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Can someone provide a photo of a model painted in this colour?, I've got a few blues in the racks but there too blue.I haven't got a any X127 in stock. Hi Shaun, I built this Hasegawa 1/72 F-4J in X-127 a few years back, I think I might of lightened it with a bit of gloss white for scale effect, i think it a pretty close match. HTH Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfgr2 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Xtracolour 127 is a perfect match...Two bits of F4J's that i have.. you can see the paint difference ... Cheers, Neil Sorry am i missing the point here????? Xtracolour 127... Edited March 24, 2010 by neilfgr2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I think Xtracolour do a paint that's pretty close, I'm at work at the moment, have a look when I get home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfgr2 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Xtracolour 127 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Xtracolour 127 Any Idea of the numbers for Tamiya paints? they have so many grey's they must have a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Xtracolour 127 Humbrol 165 must be pretty close, not sure though... Thinking about it though, I reckon you should go with Neils' Xtracolour 127. Edited March 24, 2010 by Doug Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Shaun,I built this Hasegawa 1/72 F-4J in X-127 a few years back, I think I might of lightened it with a bit of gloss white for scale effect, i think it a pretty close match. HTH Rich That looks good!, problem is that Hannants are out of stock of X127! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Shaun, there's a lifecolor acrylic that gives a very similar finish to Rich F's lovely build - it's UA124 Japan Greygreen A5. One of our club members did a 1/32 74 sqn F-4J in that paint, & it looked very good! Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 (edited) Shaun, there's a lifecolor acrylic that gives a very similar finish to Rich F's lovely build - it's UA124 Japan Greygreen A5. One of our club members did a 1/32 74 sqn F-4J in that paint, & it looked very good!Keef Gavin's F-4J looked good, maybe try that route. Do you know what other paints he used for the two other gray shades? Edited April 5, 2010 by Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Gavin's F-4J looked good, maybe try that route. Do what other paints he used for the two other gray shades? Hi Shaun, I don't sorry, but I'll e-mail & ask him if he can remember (unless he reads this thread first!) Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Picked up a tin of X127 at Cosford yesterday and a bottle of Lifecolour UA124 to later discover they both marked as FS*5414. I'll give both a test shot and see what the results are. At least I've now got loads of light blue paints for future aggressor projects Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Picked up a tin of X127 at Cosford yesterday and a bottle of Lifecolour UA124 to later discover they both marked as FS*5414.I'll give both a test shot and see what the results are. At least I've now got loads of light blue paints for future aggressor projects Shaun. Gav said he saw you at Cosford - did you ask him what other greys he used? He didn't answer my e-mail, so if you still want to know I'll ask him at the club meeting on Wednesday (& give him a slap for not answering e-mails too....!!!) Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGATIGER Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hi there Wondering if F-4J used chaff/flare in mid wing pylons or ECM pods Best modeling Armando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hi there Wondering if F-4J used chaff/flare in mid wing pylons or ECM pods Best modeling Armando RAF Phantoms used the rear facing dispensers on the inner pylons - need to check if the Js carried them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 RAF Phantoms used the rear facing dispensers on the inner pylons - need to check if the Js carried them. I though this might be worth adding after reading this thread again tonight- Phantom flare dispensors Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) I have 2 questions concerning the F-4J(UK) - 1) As built, the F-4J had catapult bridle hooks at the wing roots. When they were operated by the RAF, did those bridle hooks remain in-place, get removed, or faired-over with a cover? 2) I've read that several F-4J(UK)s were repainted after becoming operational with the RAF. (Which I assume to be Barley Grey, Light Aircraft Grey, and Medium Sea Grey Can anyone provide the FS equivalents of the "properly" repainted colours? (I'm on the other side of the pond, Humbrol and Xtracolor/crylic is harder to find here than Tamiya colours.) Thanks! EDIT - Changed "grAy" to "grEy" and "colors" to "coloUrs". Edited December 7, 2011 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 John, hooks were removed prior to delivery just leaving the recesses. As for RAF colours, you've got the right greys listed, but obviously the controversy over the original colours comes from using FS equivalents..! Officially the closest matches were 36270, 36314 and 36440 for Med, Barley & light greys repectively. Bit of mixing probably required. Quickest way to tell a repainted J will be the stencils and serial number. Originals had low viz grey stencils and big blocky serials, repainted jets had colour stencils and correct RAF style serial font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 John, hooks were removed prior to delivery just leaving the recesses. As for RAF colours, you've got the right greys listed, but obviously the controversy over the original colours comes from using FS equivalents..! Officially the closest matches were 36270, 36314 and 36440 for Med, Barley & light greys repectively. Bit of mixing probably required. Quickest way to tell a repainted J will be the stencils and serial number. Originals had low viz grey stencils and big blocky serials, repainted jets had colour stencils and correct RAF style serial font. To quote the Aeroguide book, repainted jet in 1988 where- ZE356,ZE360,ZE361 Look for the full colour Ejection seat markings on repainted jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) My belated thanks for all your quick responses and concise info! Edited December 17, 2011 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 This seems like a good place to ask: Did they continue to use standard J-style wheels? I know that the USAF wheels (mains?) were different, so thought I'd better check, and it is awfully hard to find a photo that shows the mains well enough to see anything. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I found this image of a FG.1 Phantom XV574 in May 1989 -> Image from Phantomeer Gallery It doesn't appear that the RAF ever bothered fitting USAF-style wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks! I was actually thinking of the J(UK), but if even the "proper" British Phantoms used Navy style wheels, I'm probably safe. It would seem a logical assumption, but I've learned to be suspicious of those. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Your logic is sound, Bob! J, K, M, S and thick wing RF-4B's all used the same main wheel hub design, so yep, J(UK)'s used the same as the rest of the British fleet too. British used J type wheels as that was the base model for our K & M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ6 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 As I have a Tamiya F-4J kit I want to build as an RAF 74 Squadron aircraft I've found this thread interesting and when I was looking through my old photos I came accross this so I thought I'd share it. Sorry for the poor quality of the pic. It was in the days before I had a digital SLR and had to make do with a cheap focus free camera. It was taken at RAF Finningley in the early 90s and shows the aircraft wearing high vis stencils I'm presuming this is a repainted aircraft. However the nose radome looks like its sporting the original finish and shows the difference in shade nicely. Phantom F-4J (UK) RAF Finningley Airshow by Marks CVS, on Flickr I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this but I was wondering if any changes need making to the Tamiya kit to represent the UK version? A couple of things I've spotted so far are the strip lights and the strengthening plates on the underside but any other information would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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