Radpoe Spitfire Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hi Shaun, I built this Hasegawa 1/72 F-4J in X-127 a few years back, I think I might of lightened it with a bit of gloss white for scale effect, i think it a pretty close match. HTH Rich Gosh that takes me back to my Wattisham days😄😄😄😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiemonster Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I will start to build a Phantom. You guys said Xtracollour 127 is close to the real thing, but I can't get Xtracollor here, or at least, not so easy. Which Vallejo Paint would you consider as suitable alternative to Xtracollour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Any ideas on F3 decals for 1/48? I have been looking for 74 squadron decals on hannants & others but nothing is coming up. I have some left over airfix 5 squadron decals from the airfix lightning kit that could be adapted, but need a few specific decals (squadron badge, aircraft serial no, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Any ideas on F3 decals for 1/48? I have been looking for 74 squadron decals on hannants & others but nothing is coming up. I have some left over airfix 5 squadron decals from the airfix lightning kit that could be adapted, but need a few specific decals (squadron badge, aircraft serial no, etc) Xtradecal's sheet for 74Sqn., has decals for the F4J(UK) -note it was never called an F3- as well as the FGR2 that replaced it. Decals were also produced by a company called Yellowhammer. Hasegawa issued their F4J an an F4J(UK) so have decals in that , though the national marking colours are way off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hmm, only ones I can find are from the US & $20 plus. Might have to compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hmm, only ones I can find are from the US & $20 plus. Might have to compromise. You'll have to compromise whichever way you go (assuming you want an original blue/green bird rather than a repainted one?). Off the top of my head in 48th, Superscale, YellowHammer and Xtradecal have all had a go and all are poor efforts. YellowHammer esp was poorly researched with incorrect serial font & incomplete stencils in the wrong scale (closer to 72nd) being the stand out items. Xtradecal aren't much better with the serial font although their incomplete stencils are the correct scale. The Superscale sheet has better serials & an extra stencil or two, so the best option is probably to mix and match between Xtradecal & Superscale. Pretty sure Hasegawa released a 74 Sqn boxing too, although I haven't seen the decal sheet in that. Overall a surprisingly poor effort and still an opening for a decent 48th sheet, esp with the Academy J around to stir things up again. If only Modeldecal had scaled their sheet up to 48th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There are also F-4J(UK) decals on one of the Aeromaster 48th scale F-4 Smokers sheets. Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 You'll have to compromise whichever way you go (assuming you want an original blue/green bird rather than a repainted one?). Off the top of my head in 48th, Superscale, YellowHammer and Xtradecal have all had a go and all are poor efforts. YellowHammer esp was poorly researched with incorrect serial font & incomplete stencils in the wrong scale (closer to 72nd) being the stand out items. Xtradecal aren't much better with the serial font although their incomplete stencils are the correct scale. The Superscale sheet has better serials & an extra stencil or two, so the best option is probably to mix and match between Xtradecal & Superscale. Pretty sure Hasegawa released a 74 Sqn boxing too, although I haven't seen the decal sheet in that. Overall a surprisingly poor effort and still an opening for a decent 48th sheet, esp with the Academy J around to stir things up again. If only Modeldecal had scaled their sheet up to 48th! You'll have to compromise whichever way you go (assuming you want an original blue/green bird rather than a repainted one?). Off the top of my head in 48th, Superscale, YellowHammer and Xtradecal have all had a go and all are poor efforts. YellowHammer esp was poorly researched with incorrect serial font & incomplete stencils in the wrong scale (closer to 72nd) being the stand out items. Xtradecal aren't much better with the serial font although their incomplete stencils are the correct scale. The Superscale sheet has better serials & an extra stencil or two, so the best option is probably to mix and match between Xtradecal & Superscale. Pretty sure Hasegawa released a 74 Sqn boxing too, although I haven't seen the decal sheet in that. Overall a surprisingly poor effort and still an opening for a decent 48th sheet, esp with the Academy J around to stir things up again. If only Modeldecal had scaled their sheet up to 48th! The original scheme had very little in the way of stencils anyway....funnily enough, Modeldecals sheet no 74 (I see what you did there Mr Ward!) which features serials for the whole squadron DOES have the correct font..but they're a bit too big for 1/72nd, but are okay for 1/48th.....for the few repainted aircraft normal RAF stencils -as used on the FGR2/FG1 would be useable... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hello, Sorry if the answer is obvious on earlier posts but this is my first foray onto this site as a born again modeller😜! What's the best 1/72 F4J / FGR kit on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Best 72nd F-4J is Hasegawa, or Monogram is an outstanding opponent if you're OK with rescribing. Esci is also worth seriously considering although the cockpit and small nosewheel door will need some work. For an FGR accept nothing less than Fujimi's effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Thank you. I'll start looking for some kits👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Pretty sure Hasegawa released a 74 Sqn boxing too, although I haven't seen the decal sheet in that. As well as Fujmi: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/160473-fujimi-g17-mcdonnell-douglas-r-a-f-phantom-ii-f-3 Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've got the 1/48th Yellow Hammer, Xtradecal, Hasegawa kit, Superscale and Italeri kits 74sqn decals and all have some accuracy issue. I thought the Xtradecal sheet would have solved all the issues, but they printed the nose bar Tiger yellow not orange. The fin Tiger is correct the nose is wrong! Maybe take a pic later and put it on here. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume320 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I will combine the Yellowhammer (tiger emblem on the nose) and the Xtradecal (all the rest)... Somebody mentioned the Aeromaster 'smoker' sheet. I have this sheet as well, but unfortunately this sheet suffers many accuracy issues. The tiger emblem on the nose is way to large. Fingers crossed for an 'ultimate sheet', especially in light of the new Academy F-4J! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Well, I'm a happy chappie! I've just taken delivery of m Academy F4J - and what a superb looking kit it is! Thoroughly looking forward to building it, and seeing what colours to use. One strange omission from the kit though...the DECM antenna fairings prominent on the intakes! Only one F4J(UK) ZE350/"T" didn't have them fitted, and I built that 15 or so years ago from the Hasegawa kit...but I will most likely borrow a pair from another Hasegawa kit, or scratch build them..shouldn't be that difficult...should it? I will need to finish a few of my other projects off first though, before I start my F4J(UK) Edit: I've found the DECM pods! They're on the black plastic sprues! But no 'slime bars' on the decal sheet.......I have spares!! Edited March 4, 2015 by Bill Clark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Was it only the F4J (UK / F3) that had an underside wing/fuselage strengthening strap, or did the FGR2 as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Was it only the F4J (UK / F3) that had an underside wing/fuselage strengthening strap, or did the FGR2 as well? Yes, the FG.1/FGR.2 also had the strap. By the way, the F-4J(UK) was NEVER called the the F.3... -Daz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Cheers Daz. F4J (UK) it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yes, the FG.1/FGR.2 also had the strap. By the way, the F-4J(UK) was NEVER called the the F.3... -Daz Question on these reinforcements on the FG.1/FGR.2: when were they introduced ? I believe the original FG.1s did not have them. IIRC the reinforcements were first introduced with the slatted wing on the F-4E and this type of wing entered service after all RN FG.1s had been delivered. Pictures of early RN FG.1s also don't show them. Were they introduced during service ? And did the FGR.2 have them from the start or were they introduced at a later stage on these too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume320 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I thought the strengthening on the F-4E's was completely different...? I always believed the strengthening straps on the UK Phantoms was similar to the one found on the US Navy F-4S. Im curious to know if anybody has more info on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Question on these reinforcements on the FG.1/FGR.2: when were they introduced ? I believe the original FG.1s did not have them. IIRC the reinforcements were first introduced with the slatted wing on the F-4E and this type of wing entered service after all RN FG.1s had been delivered. Pictures of early RN FG.1s also don't show them. Were they introduced during service ? And did the FGR.2 have them from the start or were they introduced at a later stage on these too ?From Block 48 From Block 48 (71-0237), F-4Es main wingbox had thicker lower wing skins so the strengthening strap was deleted. The FG.1/FGR.2 had the same wing as the F-4J. The strengthening strap was added to RAF jets several years after entry into service (I can't be sure exactly when) as the jets went through major overhaul, the wing fold area also received strengthening plates as well, and eventually new build outer wing panels from the late 80s to the early 90s. -Daz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 HI All: Here comes a new sheet of 1/48 F-4J (UK) decal. facebook: MACAN products https://www.facebook.com/pages/MACAN-products/803305229726435?ref=hl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Only the later style serial font provided by the looks of it, but this looks significantly better than any previous effort in 48th, I'm sold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Whoa, hope these come out in 1/72! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Post deleted Edited March 23, 2015 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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