Guest snipersmudge Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 ha ha! will be posting tomorrow old bean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Right I need to get back to this, but life has just got in the way lately. I'm going to do it as a Sea Meteor if I can fing sufficient refs. I've trawled the web and come up with one pic of an HSS, or NMF Meteor taking the wire. From what Johnathan said I assume it was painted in FAA colours at some point? Does anybody have pics of this scheme, and some decent shots of the areestor hook arrangement? Any info gratefully received. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Right I need to get back to this, but life has just got in the way lately.I'm going to do it as a Sea Meteor if I can fing sufficient refs. I've trawled the web and come up with one pic of an HSS, or NMF Meteor taking the wire. From what Johnathan said I assume it was painted in FAA colours at some point? Does anybody have pics of this scheme, and some decent shots of the areestor hook arrangement? Any info gratefully received. rich Sorry Rich, should have replied to your PM earlier, anyway here's a couple of scans of artwork showing EE337 "051/FD" from 778 NAS at RNAS Ford. Artwork is by David Howley (Warpaint 22) and R Caruana (Modellers Datafile 8). They don't really show the arrestor hook arrangement, though it seems fairly "primitive" from the artwork. I think the hook was taken from a Sea Mossie or Sea Hornet? Note: Its not actually referred to as a "Sea Meteor" in either article. Just a Meteor F.Mk.3 "Navalised".......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 The hook was surface mounted., so no recesses to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks very much guys. Don't worry about the PM Bill, just appreciate the help. I'll try and get the engines in this weekend, then some paint. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Sea Meteor eh? I thought you weren't much of a fan of FAA She's looking grand buddy, can't say I've seen a Meteor built up in FAA colours before so looking forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Me, did I say that. Must have been on the radio . Cheers Shaun. I hope to get it done for Telford, but I have the Canberra to do as well . rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHREAK Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 You've got to finish it as a navalised Meteor now Rich, we're not going to let you off the hook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHREAK Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Me, did I say that. Must have been on the radio .Cheers Shaun. I hope to get it done for Telford, but I have the Canberra to do as well . rich Wierd stuff, I'm doing a Canberra and have got a Meteor to do! I'll be lucky to finish either at the moment...what's new eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Maybe it's a jinxed combination! rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlpainter Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 hi do not forget to leave the main gear doors and retraction jacks and folding mechanism for the doors off due to the first deck landing it buckled its gear doors my father made a model of this and spent many years on display at the mossie museum in london colney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Cool info xlpainter, thanks very much. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 This is the only photo I can find. Is this likely to be very early on in the trials, before EDSG/Sky? And is it NMF or HSS? From: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/fowler/index.php rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 This is the only photo I can find. Is this likely to be very early on in the trials, before EDSG/Sky? And is it NMF or HSS? From: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/fowler/index.php rich Almost certainly HSS, the EDSG/Sky finish seems to relate to it being based at RNAS Ford a few years later. I'm thinking that she may have been retired from her deck landing duties by that stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Cheers Bill, just makes it harder to know which way to go. I quite like the FAA colours (don't make a comment Shaun , otherwise you travel in the boot next time), but the HSS has a real appeal to me even though it looks like I'll have to blank then muzzles off. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I quite like the FAA colours (don't make a comment Shaun , otherwise you travel in the boot next time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm not sure the halos are in the right place really, ankles maybe . rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gengriz Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 This is the only picture I was able to find of it in FAA colours and is the one I used for my build. As I undertand the situation, it originally belonged to Farnborough and did the carrier trials onboard HMS IMPLACABLE in 1947 in silver, but then moved to 778 Sqn at FORD, basically as a jet trials hack, where it remained until 1959 and was repainted as seen below. Eric Brown describes it as a Mk 3 with uprated Mk 4 (Derwent V) engines and a hook. When I built mine I removed the oil cooler bumps on the cowling, which would normally go with the more powerful engines (along with longer jetpipes), but are missing on the photos. The hook was much more difficult and I interpreted from several photos including the two posted here, plus another in Thetford's "British Naval Aircraft since 1912", that it was a single and very simple hooked arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Thanks gengriz. I have seen your build and very nice it looks too. Do you still have the other pics, or are the two here it? rich Edited September 19, 2009 by richc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gengriz Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Thanks gengriz. I have seen your build and very nice it looks too.Do you still have the other pics, or are the two here it? rich My scanner is temporarily on strike, but here are photos of the photos - first from Thetford, the second from Brown's "Wings on my Sleeve": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Thankyou very much. I have linked your build somewhere, but you didn't mention the hook much. It looks as if it's just a simple A frame connected to a tube under the fuselage. Would that be a reasonable assumption? rich Edited September 19, 2009 by richc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gengriz Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I started off with an A-Frame, but then looking at the photo above, I decided that it looked more like a single arm - unless the photographer managed to get it exactly perpendicular in the photo, which is possible, but I decided unlikely. I could be entirely wrong and I did ask around on several forums whether anyone knew, but got no replies. I believe that there used to be a 1/48 set of decals for the aircraft (maybe even a conversion). I don't know who made them, but I do remember seeing one built at the Avon IPMS show about 4-5 years ago (have checked and I didnt take any photos), which was the original inspiration for my build. I guess that the decal instructions may have more detail on the hook? FredT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Thanks Fred I'll keep an eye out for them. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitnut617 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I've been planning to do a model of this for some time now after seeing some photos in the Aerofax book 'Gloster Meteor' written by Phil Butler and Tony Buttler. There's a lengthy few paragraphs starting on page 27 running through page 28 and a bit on page 29. There are two very clear photos of EE387 on page 27, a side profile with hook up and a 3/4 rear view with the hook down. It very clearly shows an 'A' frame hook as does the photo on page 28 of EE337 about to land on an aircraft carrier (it's a few feet off the deck and about to catch the wire). In the text it says that the two Meteors used Derwent 5's, a de Havilland Hornet 'A' frame arrester hook and strengthened u/c. The outer main u/c doors were not fitted for the tests and they were all silver. Sorry but I can't scan the photos though. Edited September 19, 2009 by kitnut617 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Hiya kitnut. Thanks for the info and it's a shame, but could you even just take a couple of pics please. Bill said he remembered it being of a Hornet, so that is really useful. Looks like the plan is a goer, so the engines will go in today and I'll button the nacelles up. Next stage paint. rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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