AntPhillips Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 MOD has finally confirmed the order for the 2 new CVF carriers : BBC News story I would have preferred traditional carrier names but at least HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales have a bit of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
model_madness Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Good news! 'Bout time time those old a/c were replaced with something a bit bigger and modern. Those F-35's on the flightdeck with RN roundels are gonna be a sight to behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) I'm not holding my breath - the orders haven't been placed yet. And CVA-01 was under construction when scrapped. Mind you, final assembly will be about three miles from here! Unless they are building a new bridge! Edited July 25, 2007 by Dave Fleming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 As Dave said, I'll be happier when the keels are laid Nothing against HMS Queen Elizabeth, but Ark Royal would have been so much better for the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cop Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Not holding my breath here either. Seems like we have heard this type of thing before which came to nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSteve Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Sweet for the RN, But will they have the sailors to man these new ships, isnt that the reason why one of them is tied up in pompy because they dont have the crews??? NZ have just bought a whole lot of new ships (7 in total) and they needed another 700 sailors to man these ships, they are really struggling to man them, they keep sending my folks letters seeing if i want to See what my old friends are up too and you thought about the naval reserve? Yeah Right You know what NAVY stands for "Never Again Volunteer Yourself" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Ha,Ha lion without teeth-those F-35 won't be available til well after ops date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary West Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Great news - Just need to decide what will fly off their decks now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 poo-poo, probably.............. Ops , launch....., the holy hand grenade of Antioch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Ha,Ha lion without teeth-those F-35 won't be available til well after ops date There was a well informed piece of journalism in the Mail on Sunday that BAe has already started work modifying the Typhoon for carrier operations after the Royal Navy supposedly rejected Rafale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 MOD has finally confirmed the order for the 2 new CVF carriers :BBC News story I would have preferred traditional carrier names but at least HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales have a bit of history. Better names would have been (in no particular order) Eagle Hermes Indomitable Formidable Indefatigable Implacable Furious Audacity When I heard what the names were it sounded like someone is looking for a knighthood. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) Better names would have been (in no particular order)Eagle Hermes Indomitable Formidable Indefatigable Implacable Furious Audacity When I heard what the names were it sounded like someone is looking for a knighthood. Stephen Are you allowed to use names like that these days - with the exception of the first two there's a risk they might frighten the other side. Edited July 29, 2007 by Richard E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Hmmm, Furious and Forimdable. Good old traditional carrier names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Are you allowed to use names like that these days - with the exception of the first two there's a risk they might frighten the other side. Ther was once a time when all it took to frighten the other side was "Royal Navy" Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 There was a well informed piece of journalism in the Mail on Sunday that BAe has already started work modifying the Typhoon for carrier operations after the Royal Navy supposedly rejected Rafale. Nationalism standing in the way of common sense? If the carriers will be built in cooperation with the French, then they will make sure that the Rafale fits. the Typhoon was never developed as a naval aircraft, wheras the Rafale was...if the Royal Navy rejects the Rafale then I would like to know why... Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Nationalism standing in the way of common sense? If the carriers will be built in cooperation with the French, then they will make sure that the Rafale fits. the Typhoon was never developed as a naval aircraft, wheras the Rafale was...if the Royal Navy rejects the Rafale then I would like to know why...Jens Wrong Answer!-look what they did with the Hawk! it becameT45 Goshawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) Nationalism standing in the way of common sense? If the carriers will be built in cooperation with the French, then they will make sure that the Rafale fits. the Typhoon was never developed as a naval aircraft, wheras the Rafale was...if the Royal Navy rejects the Rafale then I would like to know why...Jens Wrong Answer!-look what they did with the Hawk!it becameT45 Goshawk Edited July 29, 2007 by Richard E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Nationalism standing in the way of common sense? If the carriers will be built in cooperation with the French, then they will make sure that the Rafale fits. the Typhoon was never developed as a naval aircraft, wheras the Rafale was...if the Royal Navy rejects the Rafale then I would like to know why...Jens Actually, Rafale was avariant- not a direct development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard M Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 So the navalised Rafale is good to go. The navalised Typhoon is "in developement", how much was it going to cost just to lose the gun? 70 million? How much is it going to cost to alter the Typhoon just so we don't buy an off the shelf French product? Plus the French don't seem to have a problem selling it to anyone, or providing technical support. Unlike our closest ally! Best Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Wrong Answer!-look what they did with the Hawk!it becameT45 Goshawk Yes but the T-45 is practically a new aircraft compared to the original Hawk.Bigger fin, different wings,strengthened fuselage. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Not really , same basic structure............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanrgb Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 When are the Decal sets coming outfor the Naval Typhoons ..thats what I want to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundylunch Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 How about RN FA - 18E's & F's then ?? - Somthin Else !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Nah, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35 Draken Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 How about RN FA - 18E's & F's then ?? - Somthin Else !! ..with some E-2D Hawkeye's for AEW duties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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