Muzz Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Hello I'm looking for some help with an upcoming build I'm doing of a 1/48th scale Tornado GR4, looking to build ZG756 in the 14 Sqn Anniversary markings using the Italeri kit. I have loads of reference material on the GR4 but not many decent details shots of the centre console between the pilots and navs seats. Does anyone have some details shots they could send me? It's not until I've started looking closely at pictures that I've noticed there is a great deal of differance between certain aircraft, I have a good shot for example of a 13 Sqn GR4, ZG771 which has a central console which although black in colour looks like this (taken of a German aircraft) http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1..._Domke/4-75.jpg Where as the majority appear to be as the aircraft shown in Merv and Juliens pictures shown in the Resource section although as can be seen in these pictures the sides of the consoles are differant. Am I correct in saying that the aircraft shown in Mervs photo is a GR4 converted from one of the early GR1's whereas the aircraft in Juliens picture is an up to date GR4 possibly with the TARDIS update? Any help and photo's would be appreciated. Edited May 5, 2009 by Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 They are all upgraded GR1'S & I gather TARDIS has'nt made it to the nav's pit as yet. The pic you've posted is of the twin stick trainer & the grey cover is the duplicate flight instruments. For some reason, the Revel kit of the GR has a bulkhead behind the pilots seat. People seem to be asking where the wiring loom from the nav kit goes, and what the blukhead looks like. Well, there isn't one. These are two photos taken looking down either side of the front seat. you can see right into the navs footwells. Hopefully this will help people wondering where all the wires go!Thom Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Merv Thanks that explains it, and thanks for the extra photo's. Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 In similar vane to Antione's topic on the Airfix kit, any comments on the Italeri Tonka regarding bits to watch out for? I've already noticed that the radome is slightly larger than the fuselage and is going to require a 1mm piece of plasticard to fill the resultant gap on the bottom of the fuselage, either that or some serious sanding round the radome! I've splashed out on the Flightpath convertion set (took a while to make my mind up about this due to the £ involved), Paragon flaps/slats, fin correction and bang seats. Does anyone know where I can get a decent set of 1500ltr tanks, as the ones in the kit look a bit on the blunt side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 In similar vane to Antione's topic on the Airfix kit, any comments on the Italeri Tonka regarding bits to watch out for? I've already noticed that the radome is slightly larger than the fuselage and is going to require a 1mm piece of plasticard to fill the resultant gap on the bottom of the fuselage, either that or some serious sanding round the radome! I've splashed out on the Flightpath convertion set (took a while to make my mind up about this due to the £ involved), Paragon flaps/slats, fin correction and bang seats. Does anyone know where I can get a decent set of 1500ltr tanks, as the ones in the kit look a bit on the blunt side? Only area I had probs with was the Kruger flaps on the wing glove box & the contact area on the wheel wells not fully meeting the fusalage.(Strengthened by glueing blocks of sprue to the fusalage & wheel well boxes. The Airfix Tornado has larger,pointier tanks, I might have spares. Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Only area I had probs with was the Kruger flaps on the wing glove box & the contact area on the wheel wells not fully meeting the fusalage.(Strengthened by glueing blocks of sprue to the fusalage & wheel well boxes.The Airfix Tornado has larger,pointier tanks, I might have spares. Merv Cheers Merv, I find the Italeri kit quite bizarre, with some not bad detail and panel lines in bits, then shallow barely there panel lines on the under surfaces and deep panel lines in places where they just shouldn't be (such as the AIM-9's). It's also the first kit I've seen where you have to shore up the inside with bits of plastic the kit supplies! But I suppose it is a pretty cheap kit to buy. Are the tanks your talking about the larger F3 Hindenburger tanks? If so, thanks but I've got some of them it's the smaller original GR1 tanks I'm looking for as these seem to be what the Lossiemouth Wing jets carry most of the time. Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Cheers Merv, I find the Italeri kit quite bizarre, with some not bad detail and panel lines in bits, then shallow barely there panel lines on the under surfaces and deep panel lines in places where they just shouldn't be (such as the AIM-9's). It's also the first kit I've seen where you have to shore up the inside with bits of plastic the kit supplies! But I suppose it is a pretty cheap kit to buy. Are the tanks your talking about the larger F3 Hindenburger tanks? If so, thanks but I've got some of them it's the smaller original GR1 tanks I'm looking for as these seem to be what the Lossiemouth Wing jets carry most of the time.Muzz They're the smaller one's & they even have the grooves where the old top fins were fitted.I have a set spare if you want? Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 They're the smaller one's & they even have the grooves where the old top fins were fitted.I have a set spare if you want?Merv Merv That would be fantastic, I'll send you a PM. Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Muzz , any progress pics for us to ogle at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Muzz , any progress pics for us to ogle at? Not started it yet, waiting on some bits & bobs arriving - Flightpath set and Paragon resin bits. I was going to start work on some of it but I'm not sure whats all in the Flightpath set so I'm going to wait for it's arrival in a week or so. Here's some pics of how I hope it will look; http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Pa...-GR4/1307558/M/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Pa...-GR4/1138138/M/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I gather TARDIS has'nt made it to the nav's pit as yet.Merv Coming soon to a Tornado near you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Coming soon to a Tornado near you.... It's been coming since 2004... As prime contractor and design authority BAE Systems Customer Solutions & Support (CS&S) will begin fitting the equipment in July 2004 to meet an In Service Date of August 2006. http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsRel...s_03122003.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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