desmojen Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Hi guys, What colour should the cockpit and interior areas be for a Finnish Mig-21 please? My instructions call for mid grey, but my mind thinks it might be that pukey turquoise colour. Any ideas? Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswoofie Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Yup, looks like that putrid green colour... found this one on Google... I've got an Xtracolor pot if you need some Karl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) Which model MiG 21 are you building? IIRC the earlier ones (F, PF) were light grey, later that distinctive turquoise colour... Take a look at http://vayu-sena-aux.tripod.com/pix/mig21fl-1171-1.jpg Edited March 7, 2009 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmojen Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Good question Iain, it's this kit.... Not sure if the Bis bit means early or late Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) I'd go the Turquoise then - as per dswoofies pic... The early MiG 21s were the ones with the small intake/shock cone - and forward hinging canopies. The Bis is a far later bird - BTW Bis means 'modified', or upgraded... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...-21_cockpit.jpg HTH Iain Edited March 7, 2009 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Mig pits varied in colour from model to model, and airframe batch to batch Anything from pale blue / duck egg to the last blue green mentioned........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmojen Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Thanks guys, I will mix up a batch of puke turquoise for the cockpit then. Any ideas on the wheel and airbrake bays? The one in Karls pic looks sky blue, certainly not the same colour as the cockpit anyway Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusArenco Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Jen, I did a little research for the MiG21 F-13 I’m building (albeit rather slowly!). Which turned out to have the earlier gray interior rather than that nasty green. I did however buy a tin of the Xtracolour X629 blue/green Soviet interior, which looks nothing like the turquoise/jade colour shown in Karl’s post. There are some good photos of Finnish MiG-21’s on http://www.airliners.net/ which seem to show the inside of the undercarriage doors in the grey underside colour. The actual wheel bays look to be either underside colour or natural metal. Your eye’s might be better than mine for determining which! Mart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entlim Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Yup, looks like that putrid green colour... found this one on Google... I've got an Xtracolor pot if you need some Karl. There is a citadel colour which comes close Hawk Turquoise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmojen Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Thanks Mart, Good pointer (you'd think I could work it out to look for myself! ) Found a couple of good shots and I think I'll go for underside grey on the undercarriage. Thanks! Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Hiya Jen - just found this - may be useful (I thought it was *really* cool!) http://www.vollto.de/html/flash/schleudersitz/mig-21.html Edited March 7, 2009 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod mcq Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 White Ensign produce a number of modern Soviet/Russian colours including the cockpit turquoise (SM07). As to the airbrake and wheel well colours, I have the Wings and Wheels book on the MiG-21 which states that when the Czechoslovak MiG-21s were delivered from the Soviet Union the insides of the airbrakes were finished in the same colour as the outer camouflage (the Czechs later painted theses in yellow). The wheel wells of the Czech a/c are a strange brown/green colour. In some of the pictures it looks to be a pale sand/stone colour, in others it looks like RLM 02 grey/green and in a few it could be the old US WWII interior green. I built a Fujimi MiG-21MF and the suggested colour for the wheel wells was RAF Hemp. I used a light sand/brown with a bit of green in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hiya Jen - just found this - may be useful (I thought it was *really* cool!) http://www.vollto.de/html/flash/schleudersitz/mig-21.html I have to agree with you on that one 32, too cool for school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Lumppio Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Hi guys,What colour should the cockpit and interior areas be for a Finnish Mig-21 please? My instructions call for mid grey, but my mind thinks it might be that pukey turquoise colour. Any ideas? Jen. Hello! Back in ´89 I worked as civilian trainee helping in FinnAF MiG-21 BIS major overhauls etc. Photographing strictly prohibited so going from memory now. Back then the BISes were brand new, all now in museums or reduced to scrap metal. I do have a lot of digiphotos taken of museum examples but are bits in harddrive and the computer is in coma (reinstall windows, yeah). FinnAF MiG-21BIS cockpits were turquoise green. BUT instrument panel was redone in Finland as part of navigation gear etc. modifications. Panel was/is painted mid-grey. You should find photos of the panel searching Airliners.net -photo collection. Quickest way to find is to use FinnAF code as keyword (like MG-129 etc.). Did the search and this link should have photo of MG-129 cockpit and instrument panel: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Finland---A...1bis/0592036/L/ EDIT. NOTE the MG-129 cockpit shown in the photo above is (partly) Finnish reconnaissance version! Didn't pay attention to it first. Comparing with Soviet etc. cockpit you will notice that the radar screen tube is missing as is the control panel on right hand side wall forward. On the place of radar screen there is certain equipment screen (western). In the last phase of MiG-21BIS use Havittajalentolaivue 31 (Fighter squadron 31) was running out of airworthy airframes and some reconnaissance BISes were brought back to fighter training. They - as seems MG-129 has now - had the fighter gun sight reinstalled. In recce versions there were other equipment installed on that place, too. Ejection seats were either grey or in some cases all-black. All black ones might be identified by the color of headrest too in photos? Airbrake interiors were the same as fuselage bottom, light grey. Same for gear bays in fuselage, but the wing interior was hemp-like. I think you would find both light grey and "hemp" in nose gear well too plus some odd green cranks and links. Colour photos are your best friend here. Landing gears were light grey as were the doors. I do remeber that some individuals had also silver painted insides for some l/g door (like the small enkeliluukku - angel hatch which is the lowest and hinged one on the strut). Some planes had also the engine hatches on lower fuselage in silver, perhaps light grey temperature resistant paint was out when painted in Soviet Union? This was early in service (1989) and AFAIK all the hatches were later painted in light grey in Finland during overhauls etc. And Caveat. What I wrote above is strictly from memory. Exterior colours of FinnAF MiG-21 BISes is also a long story. Cheers, Kari PS. Mr. Perttu Karivalo from Finland is more of an expert on FinnAF MiG-21BIS - colours and all. He may be reading this too? Edited March 11, 2009 by Kari Lumppio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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